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MC-130 Question

Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:23 am

My experiance with the C-130 was the Navy, in which our roles were few compared to the Air Force which has the widest range of roles. My question is that most Special Ops MC-130's are painted in the night-gray scheme, but a few remain in the 1980's jungle cammoflage paint with grey radome. All of the Air Force and ANG C-130's have long since been painted in the standard low-vis grey, have these MC-130 remained this way for some reason or have they just lagged behind the rest?

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Also, AF S Ops hasn't used the Fulton Recovery system in ages, is this still trained in usage?

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RE: MC-130 Question

Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:52 pm

In regards to why they're still green instead of grey, only thing I can think is that they just haven't hit that point where it's time to repaint them.

I can't say for certain that they don't train for it, but I don't think they do. I think they have even removed the whiskers for the fulton system.
 
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RE: MC-130 Question

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:54 am

I haven't seen a SpecOps 130 with the Fulton arms installed for probably 10 years. Certainly none here at Moody now.

Surprising how many C-130 aficionados don't even know that the Fulton capability ever existed. I tell them. They say "NO WAY!!". I tell them to watch "The Green Berets". They come back shaking their heads.  Smile
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RE: MC-130 Question

Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:27 am

The Fulton system was discontinued from use back in the early 90's as there was not enough call for it.

It was originally designed when helo's did not have the legs they do today, and it is rather unsafe....albeit one hell of a ride.

I have not seen an AF Herc equipped with one since at least 95 or 96. Moody would have them if anyone outside of Hurlburt has them.


All that said, I'd not be surprised to see some systems sitting in a contingency warehouse somewhere in FL just in case. The system does offer a unique means of egressing at high speed from behind enemy lines. Problem is that the recovery aircraft is vulnerable at all times behind lines, and the position is given away the second the balloon goes up.

here's an interesting website on the subject....went looking after I answered.
http://www.cia.gov/csi/studies/95unclass/Leary.html

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RE: MC-130 Question

Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:57 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 3):
All that said, I'd not be surprised to see some systems sitting in a contingency warehouse somewhere in FL just in case.

I agree. The structural attach points on the aircraft were just faired over. V-22 will make it a moot point I think.

Fulton was good to get one guy out. Would have been to tough to get a squad out, one at a time, without attracting attention. Would have been a cool way to extract downed aircrew too if they could have found a way to pack the necessary gear in the ejection seat. One pass and the downed airman is home drinking beer.... provided they didn't drag him thru the trees at 130 knots.

From your link....
"Lifted off the ground, the pig began to spin as it flew through the air at 125 mph. It arrived on board undamaged but in a disoriented state. Once it recovered, it attacked the crew. "

Who says CIA doesn't have sense of humor.....
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RE: MC-130 Question

Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:37 am

Not much funnier than a drunken and disoriented pig!  Big grin
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