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Travis Air Force Base Questions

Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:31 am

I was looking at satellite images of Travis Air Force Base and noticed that there is alot of empty ramp space on the western portion of the base. Also, there seems to be fighter aircraft dispersal parking. Has the bases operations shrunk recently or is there only a fraction of the aircraft there at the time this image was taken?
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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:59 am

Travis used to be a SAC base. It used to be that bombers were dispersed about the airfield. Dispersal made sense for bombers, if one had an accident and set off it's bomb load it wouldn't takeout nearby bombers if they were dispersed. Airlift on the other hand needs to be grouped together on the ramp to efficiently load and unload the aircraft.

Probably not related but the base got its name when a bomber, piloted by a gentleman named Travis, crashed near the base and dispersed it's nuclear payload. The aircraft carried a nuke bomb casing but without the radiological package.

http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/Travis_B-29_crash_site.htm

As for the fighter areas, many Air Force bases used to have an alert fighter mission during the early portions of the cold war. The alert hangars were generally close to the end of the runway
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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:25 pm

Thanks for the history lesson SATL382G. I had no idea on how Travis AFB got it's name. I figured it had gotten its name from a Lt who crashed early in aviation history.
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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:42 pm

Great link SATL. I ejected the contents of my stomach into a trash can at that very same baseball diamond not 3 weeks ago!

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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:11 pm

Quoting Duce50boom (Reply 3):
I ejected the contents of my stomach into a trash can at that very same baseball diamond not 3 weeks ago!

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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:57 pm

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 4):
 Smile You're not flourescing are you?  Smile

Hope not. I think I was more at risk stationed near the BOMARC site in jersey than here at SUU though  Wink

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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:21 am

I have noticed Travis AFB has a unique layout:

http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0606/00488AD.PDF

I am not familiar with the Fairfield, CA area, but why do they have two runways that are both 3/21s but they are not exactly parallel? They are off set by the length of the runways. Thanks,

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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:33 am

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 6):
I am not familiar with the Fairfield, CA area, but why do they have two runways that are both 3/21s but they are not exactly parallel? They are off set by the length of the runways. Thanks,

Not sure why they are set off, but they are aligned with prevailing wind direction in that location - which is brisk most of the time, and either coming from or going to the Carquinez Straits.
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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:47 pm

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):
either coming from or going to the Carquinez Straits

Mostly from, we're on 21 the vast majority of the time
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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:38 pm

The size of some CONUS bases is quite remarkable and Travis AFB is no exception at 6258 acres. Interesting to read that the B-36 used to be based here as well as the B-52G which was operated by the 5th Bombardment Wing (Heavy) from 1959 to 1968 along with the KC-135A equipped 916th Air Refueling Squadron. Imagine the space needed for that lot!


Quoting SATL382G (Reply 1):
Travis used to be a SAC base. It used to be that bombers were dispersed about the airfield. Dispersal made sense for bombers, if one had an accident and set off it's bomb load it wouldn't takeout nearby bombers if they were dispersed.

Interesting. I did not realise that SAC practiced dispersal at their CONUS bases back in the cold war days although they certainly did at their B-47 bases here in the UK. Most of the photos of the period show ramps groaning with dozens of aircraft. There is an interesting scene in the film 'Strategic Air Command' at Carswell AFB where an unauthorised DC-3 lands on the base and when the plane is surrounded by armed soldiers all that can be seen is acres of shiny silver B-47's! How common was dispersal at a large base like Travis AFB?

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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:34 pm

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 6):
I am not familiar with the Fairfield, CA area, but why do they have two runways that are both 3/21s but they are not exactly parallel? They are off set by the length of the runways. Thanks,

My GUESS here is just for ease/efficiency of taxiing. The aircraft can land on the left runway (either direction) and then just roll out to their parking area while the aircraft take off on the right runway (either direction) as the tarmac is right there pretty much at the hold short point. Key word in all this is "GUESS".

...fly a C-5 or B-52 into the base in FS2004 and it's quite nice when you dont have to taxi all over the damn place
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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:13 pm

Quoting 10boomer (Reply 8):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):
either coming from or going to the Carquinez Straits

Mostly from, we're on 21 the vast majority of the time

I thought that might be the case. I used to live in Sacramento, and when driving to the Bay Area, I rarely saw takeoffs to the NE.
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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:09 am

Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 10):
My GUESS here is just for ease/efficiency of taxiing. The aircraft can land on the left runway (either direction) and then just roll out to their parking area while the aircraft take off on the right runway (either direction) as the tarmac is right there pretty much at the hold short point. Key word in all this is "GUESS".

Good guess, I cant say if the runways were configured for that purpose but that's pretty much how we use them. When we are on 21, we depart on 21R and land on 21L. When we are on 03, we depart 03R and land on 03L
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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:02 am

Quoting Ghostbase (Reply 9):
CONUS bases

- What is a "CONUS base?"

Thanks

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RE: Travis Air Force Base Questions

Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:12 am

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 13):
What is a "CONUS base?"

It refers to bases in the CONtiguous United States
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