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Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:52 am

Any pictures out ther from the cockpit of a SR-71 or U2 while at altitude?
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:25 pm

I seriously doubt it. Keep in mind that those cockpits are small and cramped to begin with, and they're even more cramped when you consider that the pilots need to wear spacesuits while at altitude.

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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:05 pm

Find a copy of one of Brian Shul's books, "Sled Drivers" or "The Untouchables". They are loaded with pictures taken with pictures taken from the cockpit of an SR-71 in M=3+ cruise. He is a very talented photographer...
 
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:12 am


These are from SR-71 Blackbirds.
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:01 am

Quoting AeroWeanie (Reply 2):
Find a copy of one of Brian Shul's books, "Sled Drivers" or "The Untouchables". They are loaded with pictures taken with pictures taken from the cockpit of an SR-71 in M=3+ cruise. He is a very talented photographer...

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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:24 am

S-71 is a very secrative plane, such as the F-117,B-2, U-2, etc.. If you are around such planes, or anyone besides the pilot or someone who is allowed, you are at risk of actually being shot or being put in jail. But since the SR-71 blackbirds are "inactive" and i believed retired of the service i highly doubt the pilot or anyone else for that matter took pictures. But like the pictures that Vzlet put up them maybe the only pictures besides maybe 3 more that you will see. Same with the U-2 I HIGHLY doubt that there are ANY pictures with the U-2. Because of the U-2 still active and still flying mission if they did have photos they are being withheld. Thats my thoughts which people may prove me wrong  Smile but there you go.
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:48 am

PhatAlbert:

Your speculation is very wrong. As I said, find a copy of one of Brian Shul's books, "Sled Drivers" or "The Untouchables". You will find that they are loaded with pictures taken with pictures taken from the cockpit of an SR-71 in M=3+ cruise (I have them on the shelf two feet to my right, so this is not speculation). Flipping through "Dragon Lady" by Chris Pocock, I find two pictures taken from the cockpit of a U-2 at 60k"+ feet, including one of the instrument panel, showing the view in the periscope.

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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 8:34 am

SR-71

http://www.xp-office.de/SR71/Bilder/sr71cockpit_jpg.jpg

U-2

http://www.csh.rit.edu/~chrisc/stuff/u2_cockpit.jpg

Here are some cockpit photos themselves. Wow, I bet the guys and gals at Lockheed would have never imagined a cockpit like that on the U-2   

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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:36 am

oh ok... i dont like books and i dont really like reading thast maybe why im wrong mist the time but thanks.
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:37 pm

AGM114L:

I believe that SR-71 back seat picture is a NASA bird and the arms and head you see belong to the late Marta Bohn-Meyer. I was an acquaintance of Marta's. Marta was kiled in a aerobatic accident two months ago.
 
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:25 pm

Quoting PhatAlbert (Reply 5):
If you are around such planes, or anyone besides the pilot or someone who is allowed, you are at risk of actually being shot or being put in jail. But since the SR-71 blackbirds are "inactive" and i believed retired of the service i highly doubt the pilot or anyone else for that matter took pictures.

Bullshit.. During a museum crawl at the USAF museum in Dayton I sat in both cockpits of Habu.
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:34 pm

Phatalbert, you might want to check this website out......
 
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:40 am

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 10):
During a museum crawl



Quoting Duce50boom (Reply 11):
Phatalbert, you might want to check this website out......

exactly CaptOveur a museum not during flight. Duce i dont care about grammer.. im not graded for anything so i dont care about my mistakes..
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:10 am

Quoting PhatAlbert (Reply 5):
But since the SR-71 blackbirds are "inactive" and i believed retired of the service i highly doubt the pilot or anyone else for that matter took pictures. But like the pictures that Vzlet put up them maybe the only pictures besides maybe 3 more that you will see. Same with the U-2 I HIGHLY doubt that there are ANY pictures with the U-2. Because of the U-2 still active and still flying mission if they did have photos they are being withheld.



Quoting PhatAlbert (Reply 12):
exactly CaptOveur a museum not during flight

Aeroweanie has proven you wrong with the SR-71, if anyone can post some inflight U-2S cockpit pictures for me, I'll email them to you and we can settle this once and for all

Quoting PhatAlbert (Reply 12):
Duce i dont care about grammer.. im not graded for anything so i dont care about my mistakes..

That much is obvious
 
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:15 am

Quoting PhatAlbert (Reply 12):
im not graded for anything so i dont care about my mistakes..

You won't get far in life thinking like that. Written communication skills matter in just about any job. They also improve understanding on message boards.

Quoting PhatAlbert (Reply 8):
i dont like books and i dont really like reading

Get ready for some big letdowns in life.

Quoting PhatAlbert (Reply 5):
I HIGHLY doubt that there are ANY pictures with the U-2.

See reply 7.

Quoting PhatAlbert (Reply 5):
S-71 is a very secrative plane

Ok

Quoting PhatAlbert (Reply 5):
such as the F-117

Been in the cockpit of one of those too

Quoting PhatAlbert (Reply 5):
If you are around such planes, or anyone besides the pilot or someone who is allowed, you are at risk of actually being shot or being put in jail

Ok logical leap but not 100% accurate

Quoting PhatAlbert (Reply 5):
But since the SR-71 blackbirds are "inactive" and i believed retired of the service i highly doubt the pilot or anyone else for that matter took pictures.

You contradict your above quote here.
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:00 am

PhatAlbert:

I didn't get to be where I am in my career (and life in general) by not reading books and not caring about making mistakes. I see from your profile that you are 17 - I know that reading because school requires it might seem like drudgery (I was once that age and remember well). You are obviously interested in airplanes - use this to motivate yourself to read. Start with a good book about the SR-71 or the U-2. If your school doesn't have any, try your local public library. If you want suggestions, e-mail me directly from my profile.
 
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:55 am

PhatAlbert:

40 years ago, when I was not much older than you are, the Air Force gave me the opportunity to work on the SR-71. If I had an attitude like yours, 'I don't like books, and making mistakes is no big thing', the Air Force would have very quickly made me a cook or truck driver.
 
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:27 pm

No I mean I do not care on here.. in the workforce and such I would because of course you need Reading, Language, Math Etc. But what I am meaning is on this forum, hopefully people will atleast know what i'm trying to talk about. And for people understanding me on this im sorry ill try to imporve.
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:26 pm

Quoting PhatAlbert (Reply 17):
No I mean I do not care on here.. in the workforce and such I would because of course you need Reading, Language, Math Etc. But what I am meaning is on this forum, hopefully people will atleast know what i'm trying to talk about. And for people understanding me on this im sorry ill try to imporve.

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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:08 am

Typically what I have found in looking at cockpits is that it is not the layout or the instruments themselves that is secret but the information the display. Same goes for many navy ships and subs. Nothing real secret in a missle sub bridge except for the depth gauge that shows how deep they can go!
 
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Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:34 am

Here are some from this site's database, though not at altitude:


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Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:55 pm

This is a picture of the single seat A-12 on display at the Minnesota Air National Guard Museum. There isn't much room for sightseeing.


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A C-130 with 21 windows on the flight deck, lower operating altitude, and more leisurely pace is a much better way to enjoy the scenery  Smile


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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:31 pm

Quoting AeroWeanie (Reply 9):
AGM114L:

I believe that SR-71 back seat picture is a NASA bird and the arms and head you see belong to the late Marta Bohn-Meyer. I was an acquaintance of Marta's. Marta was kiled in a aerobatic accident two months ago.

I'm sorry to hear that. I can definitely emphasize with the loss of a comrade, an unfortunate reality of the lives we lead.

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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:19 am

Well if I want to I can touch the Black Bird at Duxford in England with out being Shot!

Also my mates sat in the cockpit at the Boeing museum of flight two Weeks a go and got loads of photos!
 
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:41 am

Quoting Lurch (Reply 23):
Well if I want to I can touch the Black Bird at Duxford in England with out being Shot!

there is an F-117 and a B-2 in the USAF museum in Dayton Ohio. I have touched both, and I am still here.

I was even inside the F-117 once.
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:45 am

Quoting Lurch (Reply 23):
Also my mates sat in the cockpit at the Boeing museum of flight two Weeks a go and got loads of photos!

I enjoyed that as well, I was surprised at how cramped it was. Cant imagine how it was being in there flying the machine, in a spacesuit, at Mach 3.0, at 80K+ feet, for hours at hand over hostile territory keeping tabs over a million things. I doubt pilots ever looked out the windows except for take off, landing and refuelling. Ok, maybe when they got shot at as well.

I heard that the SR-71 could go above 100,000 feet. Any truth to this?
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:28 pm

Quoting RG828 (Reply 25):
I doubt pilots ever looked out the windows except for take off, landing and refuelling. Ok, maybe when they got shot at as well.

I remember reading in Ben Rich's book a commentary by an SR-71 pilot, who said that him and his RSO could look out the windows and see MiG-25s trying to reach them. I believe he also stated that there were a couple SA-5s shot at him (could be wrong), and that they just nailed the throttle, because the aircraft could outrun anything (within reason).

Quoting RG828 (Reply 25):
I heard that the SR-71 could go above 100,000 feet. Any truth to this?

I would certainly think so, no definitive specs were ever released (that I'm aware of) regarding the aircraft's true speed and altitude capability. A bit like the U.S. Navy's subs, officially they are capable of "25+ knots" submerged, where in the case of the Seawolf class is actually around (and possibly over) 40 knots (during trials the Seawolf crew had t-shirts with SFFSFO on them, So Freakin' Fast Stuff Falls Off). I would love to know what the SR-71 was really capable of.
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:23 am

One of the hreat planes and a favourite of mine too.

Thanks for sharing the pics

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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:05 am

Concerning SR-71 capabilities and top speed, there's this from an earlier SR-71-related post(reply 6):

"Paul Kucher's site has a copy of the ops manual, which indicates that max normal Mach is 3.2, extensible to 3.3 with Commander's authorization and if a compressor inlet temp limit of 427C can be met.
http://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/manual/5/5-9.htm
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:29 pm

Here is the heart of the SR-71a the Mighty J-58

http://www.enginehistory.org/p&w_j58.htm
 
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:31 am

Quoting KDTWFlyer (Thread starter):
Any pictures out ther from the cockpit of a SR-71 or U2 while at altitude?

Sure, there is this awesome video footage of one of the Top Gear guys named James May.
He got himself a ride in a U2 and went all the way up to 70.000ft.

So strap yourself in and watch this amazing video.
http://www.wimp.com/breathtakingfootage/
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:24 pm

PhatAlbert I agree with the others who have said that your attitude towards grammar and accuracy is going to hurt you in the long run. And whether you are being 'graded' on it or not in these forums, it automatically affects how people perceive you. The choice is up to you of course but I'd strive for better communication skills... it makes differences in ways you don't even realize.

Oh and by the way in your profile that picture of you with an airplane at the bottom... I believe that is a B-47 tail you are standing next too. Just an fyi.

As far as the posts regarding the Blackbirds true performance, they are due to be released in 2021. Hope it's as interesting as I think it may be.  
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:09 am

Got a question for all of you.

I once read somewhere, I can't remember where or what publication, that during the Cold War, we purchased Titanium through a front company from the Soviets to use in SR-71 construction. The Soviets were, at least at the time, one of the largest users and manufacturers of Titanium.

Do any of you know if this is true?

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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:51 pm

Quoting fridgmus (Reply 32):
Do any of you know if this is true?

As fas as I know from reading, it is true. Probably was the quickest way to get the materials, remember that this a/c from design to prototype was pretty quick.
 
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:03 pm

Quoting fridgmus (Reply 32):
Do any of you know if this is true?

That is true, at least from the programs I've watched as well. 93% of the SR is titanium and the USSR had an abundance of it, whilst we did not. So we purchased it under false pretenses and ironically took the metal they sold us to build a plane to spy on them with.
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RE: Any Pictures From The Cockpit Of SR-71/U2?

Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:49 pm

Quoting par13del (Reply 33):
emember that this a/c from design to prototype was pretty quick.

But from reading the insights into development of the plane, it seemed that Kelly Johnson was something of a magician, hiring headstrong, but brilliant people and somehow making them all work together really well.

He accepted mistakes, but demanded quick recovery from them. It's interesting to compare it with modern projects, not just aviation ones.

As others have said above to the 5 year old post, Sled Driver is a truly fantastic book - and the limited edition I have is something I really treasure. Brian Shul was not just an SR-71 pilot, but an amazing photographer as well. Equally interesting to look at pictures of the astro-interial navigation system control panel in the book, especially for me since I have an interest in the older navigation systems in the classic aircraft (B707, Concorde, etc).

Quoting Lurch (Reply 29):
Here is the heart of the SR-71a the Mighty J-58

http://www.enginehistory.org/p&w_j58.htm

I understand that these engine runs were something extraordinary to witness in person.

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