jush
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For English A.netters Yeovilton Museum

Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:03 am

Hi!
I've been to Yeovilton AFB to visit the RAF museum and i was thrilled.
It really is a great museum though the "carrier ride" is kinda rubbish.
Anyway they do have a Concorde on display and i've been somewhat clueless about this Concorde.
If i got it right it should be a test Concorde from the flight testing back in the 70s? Is that correct?
You also could have a look inside but it was kinda disappointing cause i seems that this Concorde was never a real Concorde which flew a around in passenger service. They just retrofitted some seats from the stone age and some testing equipment and the look at the cockpit was disappointing as well.

Has anyone more information about this Concorde cause the museum wasn't telling me enough 'bout it.

Regds
jush
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norfolkjohn
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RE: For English A.netters Yeovilton Museum

Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:51 am

Jush,

This aircraft is G-BSST which was the first British assembled Concorde. It never flew as a commercial passenger carrying aircraft although it was used for sales tours I believe.

These links should give you more information.

www.concordesst.com/002.html

www.concorde-jet.com/e_g_bsst.php

All the best

John
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RE: For English A.netters Yeovilton Museum

Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:18 am

Opps, hope you didn't tell any staff there how much you liked this 'RAF Museum'.
It is, of course, primary a museum of Naval Aviation.
At a Naval Air Station.

I thought the carrier section was pretty good, but I was more interested in the actual aircraft 'on deck'.
F-4K Phantom, Sea Vixen, the glorious Buccaneer.
(next to the Buccaneer was an inert 'drill round' of a WE-177 nuclear bomb, only declassified after final service withdrawal in 1998).

The Concorde was the first UK Prototype, very, very different to production aircraft.
It's arrival in 1976, was the big break for the museum, as it gave it an exhibit with mass appeal.
Brooklands will have the same when first UK production Concorde, G-BBDG, is complete.

G-BSST was really, using today's terminology, a 'Technology Demonstrator'.
At BA Concorde Engineering, we might have occasionally robbed a part off the aircraft at the Duxford museum (the pre-production, in todays terms the actual prototype, G-AXDN), but we never touched the Yeovilton aircraft, there was just nothing in common with production airframes.

G-BSST did do the 1972 World Sales Tour, maybe a mistake as the earlier version R/R Olympus engines were much smokier, giving a bad impression.
Other G-BSST differences included, shorter by 9 feet, different nose/visor, analogue intake control system, different cockpit layout (I didn't recognize much when I looked into G-BSST's cockpit, after over 7 years in BA Concorde Engineering), different nozzles and much more.

I was with a group from www.concordesst.com when I went to Yeovilton last Feb.
One of our group, a now retired Dutch avionics engineer, worked on G-BSST at Filton and Fairford until 1974, for him it was a fascinating trip down memory lane, he took great interest in 'his' avionic boxes behind the flight deck, again, there was nothing there I recognized, even allowing for all the test equipment for a development machine.

G-BSST rarely carried pax, the Shah or Iran flew on it in 1972, various politicians/royalty too.
In 1974, the rear cabin had a 50 seat 'airline' layout, so the UK Industry Minister, long time Concorde supporter Tony Benn, arranged 50 shop floor workers to go on a 'round the bay' trip on the aircraft, (around the Bay Of Biscay returning to the home airfield).
 
jush
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RE: For English A.netters Yeovilton Museum

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:45 am

Quoting GDB (Reply 2):
Opps, hope you didn't tell any staff there how much you liked this 'RAF Museum'.

No i didn't but i should have. I've been there a year ago so then i knew the correct name.

You are right once again with the carrier deck that was quite alright.
But inside was hmm especially the helicopter ride...

REgds
jush

Oh i forgot thank you all for your information.
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