aeropiggot
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Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:09 am

Gents, a recent article from Aviation daily states that a classified recon aircraft was spotted at Yokota Air Base, Japan. The article further states that the aircraft that could be flying spy missions over North Korea. Two or three of the unknown aircraft appeared at Yokota periodically over the last year, flying night missions for two-three weeks at a time, then departing. USAF C-5 Galaxy transports may have accompanied the "black" aircraft. The latter were kept in special hangars, appearing only during night hours, and were described as "very fast." The unknown aircraft were smaller and more sleek than now-retired SR-71 Blackbirds, one observer said.

Does anyone have any additional information of this airplane. I believe it could be a hypersonic stealth aircraft?
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:14 am

umm... Just a thought.

Wouldn't it be better to deploy uber secret aircraft to say.. Kadena, or Anderson... you know... anywhere that all of Tokyo couldn't see?

Kinda... not believable.

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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:15 am

More sleek than an SR-71 - how do you do that?

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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:07 am

These guys mite be able to help with your Questions on Secret Stuff!

http://members.aol.com/SecretJet/
 
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:04 am

Actually, prior to Operation El Dorado Canyon, F-117s were staged at Myrtle Beach AFB in S. Carolina. This area had the runway adjacent to the main highway. Close to twenty aircraft were moved to the middle of town, and no one was the wiser. This was in 1986, when the F-117 was "vapor-ware".
Captured Soviet aircraft have been known to operate from Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio. This is not the most secluded base in the U.S. So, the USAF or DIA operating a secret aircraft in "Plain-sight" is not out of the ordinary. Perhaps they were TR-3s?
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:12 am

Quoting Migfan (Reply 4):
prior to Operation El Dorado Canyon, F-117s were staged at Myrtle Beach AFB

Migfan,
Do you mean that the deployment was related to El Dorado Canyon? I could only find the below info (from Joe Baugher's site) on an aborted deployment two and a half years before the action in Libya:

In October of 1983 the US government considered using the stealth fighter in a retaliatory attack on Hezbollah terrorist forces based in southern Lebanon in response to the destruction of the Marine barracks in Beirut. In anticipation of action, the 4450th TG at Tonopah was put on alert. Five or seven stealth fighters were armed and had their INS systems aligned for attacks on targets in Lebanon. The plan was for these planes to fly from Tonopah to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina where they would be put in secure hangars. They would then wait for 48 hours for the crews to rest before being given the order to take off for a nonstop flight to Lebanon. However, Defense Secretary Casper Weinberger scrubbed the mission 45 minutes before the aircraft were to take off for South Carolina.
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/f117.html
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:01 am

Quoting Lurch (Reply 3):
These guys mite be able to help with your Questions on Secret Stuff!

http://members.aol.com/SecretJet/

Yeah, I wouldnt take them too seriously....

From their 'Rudloe Manor' page, its actually highly amusing the level of paranoia these people have. I live, what, 3 miles from Rudloe Manor. My dad worked there for 8 years. I lived at Colerne for 8 years. I can safely say that:

1. Rudloe Manor is nothing to do with black projects, most of it is mothballed these days.

2. The 'BURLINGTON & HAWTHORN BUNKERS' exist, Burlington was recently declassified and placed on the open market, and I have been in both.

3. Spring Quarry is a disused quarry and storage depot - seriously, you can wander around it with no issues.

4. Basil Hill barracks - no bunkers, merely some air filtration towers for SQ, MF and other underground facilities in the area.

5. Colerne airfield - the airfield is disused (gets maybe one aircraft a year if lucky) and the military base is the primary base of the 21 signals regiment, hence the satellite dishes.

6. Monkton Farleigh - yup, disused. Well, Areas 9 and 9 are, 7 is rented out to a private security storage company, but the underground links are all bricked up. This one is quite interesitng, since the facility is massive and you can actually get into it. It still contains most of the 1950s nuclear decon facilities which are quite creepy.

7. Wine Cellars - whoo, so it has connections to other facilities, ALL the bunkers in the Corsham area (there are around 10) are linked, they all have tunnels between them.


Its just amusing the stuff these people try and propagate  Smile
 
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:37 am

Aeropiggot....would you please post a link to the article you mentioned, or a link to the magazine website..

I would not be surprised to find that we have something that we haven't publicized, but I would be surprised to find that we used it somewhere it would be seen.

There is always the possibility that the prototype(s) for Darkstar are being used, and there are several other test articles that could be used for operational taskings if the situation warrants.
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:03 am

Yes, the F-117s were there at Myrtle beach. They never took part, they would have to wait for Panama. Within 72 hours the entire contingent had moved in and out and in public.
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:10 am

Quoting AeroPiggot (Thread starter):
Gents, a recent article from Aviation daily states that a classified recon aircraft was spotted at Yokota Air Base, Japan.

I wouldn't put a lot of stock in this report. As a military pilot, I have operated in/out of many airfields in Japan and Okinawa. One of the kicks of flying to Japan were all of the photographers you would see at the airfield fences snapping pictures. The Japanese are fanatic about it.

My point, if a secret airplane was flying out of Japan .... trust me ... the Japanese would have pictures of it posted everywhere and you could buy models of it at Toys-R-Us.

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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:36 pm

Richard, you're part of the System and therefore can't be believed. Denial is admission of guilt therefore you just (in their minds) confirmed everything they claim.
Pat, you KNOW that secret aircraft are impossible to photograph without Them knowing it. They are photographed but all those people are just disappeared (again according to the conspiracy theorists).

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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:19 pm

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 10):

Got Paranoia?

If you believe that then the forces you are referring to have already won.

Black projects belong to the people just as much as common information. The people pay for them, and the least we can be afforded is a picture.

/M
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:08 pm

Most of the Secret Jet website stuff I take with a Bucket of Salt!

But the Guys who sit up on the Mountains with Large Astronomy Telescopes shooting video and Stills of the Base as in Groom Lake (Area51) are for the most part very level headed people who do not take much notice of the Crazys who are out there by the Bus Load!
 
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:53 am

Quoting Lurch (Reply 12):
But the Guys who sit up on the Mountains with Large Astronomy Telescopes shooting video and Stills of the Base as in Groom Lake (Area51) are for the most part very level headed people who do not take much notice of the Crazys who are out there by the Bus Load!

Or used to, as the Air Force bought the last remaining land with a view of the base.

I highly doubt such an aircraft would be operated from such a public base. On a side note, I wonder if the aircraft in question is the same one that crashed at Boscombe Down on September 26th 1994. Here are some interesting yet most likely wrong digital renderings of supposed 'black' aircraft, man would I love for one of the classified aircraft to be real.
http://www.geocities.com/captainosmoteria/BlackProjects.html
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:45 am

I heard a story floating around the web that one of these black-aircraft made an emergency landing in England during the late nineties. It was supposed to be doing a training flight over the Baltic and developed engine trouble. Dutch radar was able to track an unknown aircraft crossing it's airspace. By the time they were able to react, it was over the North Sea.
The aircraft recovered to an undisclosed RAF base. The extend at which the U.S./U.K. went to cover this up included scrambling F-111s and Tornadoes into the pattern to drown out the unusual noise created by the "Pulse Detonation Engines". The entire airbase, Alconbury I think, was locked down. Everyone indoors , and stay there until told. The fire crews were turned back, and the security forces were able to place a tarp over the vehicle as it was towed away to a hangar. The tarp did not fit, leaving the tail and nose exposed, also the aircraft did not fit exactly into the hangar, and stuck out.
Someone got a picture, but never posted it online. Probably a smart idea there. Like I said I heard this, and have no accountable proof.

/M
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:43 pm

So we are spying on North Korea with a really cool plane.

If they really want some good photos, they can take some of Kim Jong Il in his bedroom. He us usually surrounded with young dancers in limited clothing. Might sell well and they could raise money for more projects without much tax usage. (covert photo operations+Vivid Video collaboration.)

As for flying out of Yokota, it sounds a little fishy. But half of Tokyo wouldn't see it. Too much light pollution to see anything. And if they fly south and then west they are quickly over the high plains fo Yamanashi and the Central Alps of Japan...limited population density. They would be over Japan in a matter of a few minutes and no one will know a thing. Japanese would not be looking for it anyway. This apolitical society would be focused on their TVs.
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:04 pm

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 6):

1. Rudloe Manor is nothing to do with black projects, most of it is mothballed these days.

It is a silly story.

If the British and American establishments wanted to do black project work, there are better locations to do it in. For instance some of the more remote Scottish locations or in the Australian outback with its wide open spaces and friendly Government co-operation.

The Manor is just too exposed a location to do any work in secrecy.
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RE: Highly Classified Black Aircraft In Japan

Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:05 pm

Quoting Migfan (Reply 11):
Got Paranoia?

If you believe that then the forces you are referring to have already won

yes, and no.
yes, I'm paranoid and no, I don't believe that. Was just pointing out what the conspiracy nutters (which I definitely am not) will say.
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