maiznblu_757
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Jet Noise, The Sound Of Freedom...

Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:09 pm

Please forgive me if this is old, I just came across this while surfing the web... The response is classic.

A wake-up call from Luke's jets

Jun. 23, 2005 12:00 AM
Question of the day for Luke Air Force Base: Whom do we thank for the morning air show?

Last Wednesday, at precisely 9:11 a.m., a tight formation of four F-16 jets made a low pass over Arrowhead Mall, continuing west over Bell Road at approximately 500 feet. Imagine our good fortune!

Do the Tom Cruise-wannabes feel we need this wake-up call, or were they trying to impress the cashiers at Mervyns' early-bird special?

Any response would be appreciated.


http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...ions/articles/0623thurlets239.html


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Flyby honored fallen comrade

Jun. 28, 2005 12:00 AM

Regarding "A wake-up call from Luke's jets" (Letters, Thursday):

On June 15, at precisely 9:12 a.m., a perfectly timed four-ship of F-16s from the 63rd Fighter Squadron at Luke Air Force Base flew over the grave of Capt Jeremy Fresques.

Capt. Fresques was an Air Force officer who was previously stationed at Luke Air Force Base and was killed in Iraq on May 30, Memorial Day.
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At 9 a.m. on June 15, his family and friends gathered at Sunland Memorial Park in Sun City to mourn the loss of a husband, son and friend.

Based on the letter writer's recount of the flyby, and because of the jet noise, I'm sure you didn't hear the 21-gun salute, the playing of taps, or my words to the widow and parents of Capt. Fresques as I gave them their son's flag on behalf of the president of the United States and all those veterans and servicemen and women who understand the sacrifices they have endured.

A four-ship flyby is a display of respect the Air Force pays to those who give their lives in defense of freedom. We are professional aviators and take our jobs seriously, and on June 15 what the letter writer witnessed was four officers lining up to pay their ultimate respects.

The letter writer asks, "Whom do we thank for the morning air show?"

The 56th Fighter Wing will call for you, and forward your thanks to the widow and parents of Capt. Fresques, and thank them for you, for it was in their honor that my pilots flew the most honorable formation of their lives.

Lt. Col. Scott Pleus
CO 63rd Fighter Squadron
Luke Air Force Base


http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...nions/articles/0628tuelets282.html



            

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maiznblu_757
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RE: Jet Noise, The Sound Of Freedom...

Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:45 pm

Upon further investigation, he publicly apologized. Its not my intent to turn this into a political discussion, just thought some of you might be interested.



An apology from the heart to the airmen of Luke

Jul. 9, 2005 12:00 AM

Regarding "Flyby honoring fallen comrade" Letters, June 28):

I read with increasing embarrassment and humility the response to my unfortunate letter to The Republic concerning an Air Force flyby ("A wake-up call from Luke's jets," Letters, June 23).

I had no idea of the significance of the flyby, and would never have insulted such a fine and respectful display had I known.

I have received many calls from the fine airmen who are serving or have served at Luke, and I have attempted to explain my side and apologized for any discomfort my letter has caused.

This was simply an uninformed citizen complaining about noise.

I have been made aware in both written and verbal communications of the four-ship flyby, and my heart goes out to each and every lost serviceman and woman in this war in which we are engaged.

I have been called un-American by an unknown caller and I feel that I must address that. I served in the U.S. Navy and am a Vietnam veteran. I love my country and respect the jobs that the service organizations are doing.

Please accept my heartfelt apologies.



http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...ons/articles/0709satlets2-091.html

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RE: Jet Noise, The Sound Of Freedom...

Sat Apr 08, 2006 3:13 pm

I hate low flying loud jets as much as the next guy. I also disagree with the war in Iraq. Now that being said, anyone who has a problem with a missing man formation during a funeral for a man who lost his life while in the service of his country is complete scum.
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RE: Jet Noise, The Sound Of Freedom...

Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:38 pm

Unless you are part of that airforce unit or going to the funeral how was the letter writer to know it was the mising man? It is not like they drag a banner....

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RE: Jet Noise, The Sound Of Freedom...

Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:12 pm

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 3):
It is not like they drag a banner....

You make an extremly valid point. Although we're talking about a single pass. It's not like an afternoon of touch and goes.

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RE: Jet Noise, The Sound Of Freedom...

Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:29 pm

Quoting MarkATL (Reply 2):
I hate low flying loud jets as much as the next guy.

Im sorry Mark but I have to disagree with you there...the lower the better.
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RE: Jet Noise, The Sound Of Freedom...

Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:13 pm

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 5):
Im sorry Mark but I have to disagree with you there...the lower the better.

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RE: Jet Noise, The Sound Of Freedom...

Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:41 am

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 3):


Unless you are part of that airforce unit or going to the funeral how was the letter writer to know it was the mising man? It is not like they drag a banner....

Well instead of taking the time to write a diatribe to the local paper he could have simply picked up the phone and called the AFB and asked what the planes were doing. They would have explained to him the situation and in 5 minutes the whole situation would have been cleared up...

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Thread starter):

Thanks for posting the response and the apology... That guy must really like the taste of leather  footinmouth 
 
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RE: Jet Noise, The Sound Of Freedom...

Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:38 am

Unfortunately, jet noise is an increasing issue at Luke AFB. There are more and more 'retirement communities' popping up around the base and, of course, most of the people living there don't like the noise (Luke AFB is the Air Force's sole F-16 training base, so there is a LOT of noise). I remember hearing talk of moving F-16 training ops to another base (Cannon, Kirtland), because of constant noise complaints at Luke.

This really irritates me because the base was there before any of the development and the people that are complaining CHOSE to live that close to the base. It's simple, if the 'sound of freedom' bothers you so much that you lodge complaints against the airbase, then you should not be living that close to the base.  Smile
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RE: Jet Noise, The Sound Of Freedom...

Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:41 am

Didn't Williams AFB on the other side of town get closed down partially because of the encroachment of urban development in the vicinity? I understand that Arizona is one of the fastest growing areas in the USA.

Quoting NightHawk117 (Reply 8):
This really irritates me because the base was there before any of the development and the people that are complaining CHOSE to live that close to the base. It's simple, if the 'sound of freedom' bothers you so much that you lodge complaints against the airbase, then you should not be living that close to the base.

But did they know beforehand?

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RE: Jet Noise, The Sound Of Freedom...

Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:14 am

Quoting Ghostbase (Reply 9):
But did they know beforehand?

I'd think that they would. Especially with the price of homes in that area. I, for one, would definitely research the area before dropping $500,000 on a house.  Smile
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