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Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:44 am

There is a pretty decent sized military presence at JFK today. Is Mr. Bush visiting the area or something? There is a C-5 sitting out by the runway for the last 30 min
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:48 am

He is in Camp David last time I heard...Perhaps he is coming here this week. Last few times he came to New York, he flew into a nearby AFB and choppered into the Downtown heliport...But it's entirely possible that he is coming.

I remember Clinton coming to JFK in 1998 or so...They had the military aircraft parked behind the TWA hangar and the Belt Parkway Westbound was entirely shut down for his motorcade.
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:50 am

Btw, is there only a C-5 or what else? And where is it parked exactly?
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:54 am

There is a C-5 parked out deep on txwy Alpha and two Chinook (I don't know if thats how you spell it) in that new de-icing building by the TWA hangar. Thats all that I can see.
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:54 am

A single C-5 and two 'sh*thooks' is a 'huge' military presence...??? Maybe it's just a NY ANG C-5 stopping by for a short visit or to pick up the Chinhooks. BTW- They are using the C-17 for the Presidential motorcade transport. The C-5 is way too big......

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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:56 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
BTW- They are using the C-17 for the Presidential motorcade transport.

The C-17 can carry the helicopters? I thought only the C-5 could do that...

For what it's worth, the aircraft I saw in '98 was a C-141...I believe they also had a C5 on that visit as well though.
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:58 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 5):
The C-17 can carry the helicopters?

HMX-1 is flow to the location.
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:00 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 6):
HMX-1 is flow to the location.

What's the range on those birds?
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:00 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
They are using the C-17 for the Presidential motorcade transport

That's the one i was trying to think of.

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
A single C-5 and two 'sh*thooks' is a 'huge' military presence...???

Huge to me, there were more yesterday. There were 2 C130's that took off
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:12 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 7):
What's the range on those birds?

No idea, but I've seen them pass through my airport on the way elsewhere. I remember one time I was on the ramp and saw it approching and said "Hey, that's an H-61..!!, HEY, that's a GREEN H-61..!! HEY.. it's got a white top...HEY, that's Marine 1...!!! When it's flying on a non-Presidentail mission they remove the Presidential Seal from the doors. Notice the pictures below.
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Now of course when it goes overseas it's shipped on a C-5.
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:03 pm

On Saturday around 12 noon I saw two of the Marine One helicopters escorted by 3-4 Chinocks flying over the NJ side of the Hudson they went past the Intrepid up to Edwater NJ and then swung back around and came back South the same direction they came. They were flying at very low altitude, it almost looked as if they were taking the President on a sight seeing flight around Manhattan.
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:09 pm

Had Bush been about on Saturday, there would have been a TFR put up. There wasn't one, so I have to assume he wasn't in the area.

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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:18 pm

I'll be on the FDR in the morning...I'll look to see if there is increased activity near the heliport.

FlyDeltaJets, any update on those military aircraft at JFK?
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:00 pm

The President will be in Kings Point today to speak at the Merchant Marine Academy Commencement ceremony. That is probably why you are seeing an increased military presense at the airport.
 
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:22 pm

Just heard on the radio the commencement is scheduled for 10AM. That should be fun for rush hour traffiic...
 
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:51 pm

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 12):
FlyDeltaJets, any update on those military aircraft at JFK?

The C-17 left, I didn't see when it did b/c I had two flights to do. I cannot say if the helicopters are gone as I didn't pass that way when I left the airport. Last night.
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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:38 am

There was an article today about Mayor Bloomberg going to meet the President at JFK where he was stopping on his way to Kings Point.

What you saw yesterday was doubtless practice runs, route planning, perhaps some VIP movement.

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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:58 am

The 3 military aircraft passed by my house earlier on their way to Kings Point and just passed by again headed back to JFK about 15 minutes ago(1140 EDT) so I guess he is headed back to D.C. Nice to see them flying so low...damn they are noisy though! LOL!!!

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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:13 am

And where Bush goes, a TFR goes as well. Thusly, my planned flight, which went nowhere near where he was except for HPN, got called off. The gratuitous cursing begins now.  Angry

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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:28 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
A single C-5 and two 'sh*thooks' is a 'huge' military presence...??? Maybe it's just a NY ANG C-5 stopping by for a short visit or to pick up the Chinhooks. BTW- They are using the C-17 for the Presidential motorcade transport. The C-5 is way too big......

They use a C-5 on the presidential trips, also.

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RE: Huge Military Presence At JFK

Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:07 am

Thats a CH-46 Sea Knight It looks like a CH-47 Chinook from a Distance but is the US navy and Marines sea based asault chopper at the momment!

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