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Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:51 pm

Well? Would you? Say it were for free and you got a 10 day trip up into space. Would you be too afraid the shuttle might get into another disaster? Or would you be one of the ones to make history and be one of the few to make it into space? I don't know if I would. I think it would be fascinating without any gravity and seeing those awesome views of space and the earth. On the other hand, I might be horrified that it would be too unsafe. How about yourself?
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:19 pm

That is one of the more stupid questions, cause it is the shuttle, and yeah if it got dameged that badly during take off, you and the crew would stay in the space station and wait for a reliable capsule to come from Russia.

Not a good question, but the answer is yes.
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:38 pm

NASA estimates the risk of death at about 1/100-200. This sounds low, but is actually very high. The risk of ridding the shuttle is much higher than even that of riding a motorcycle without an helmet. It is higher than that of ultralight flying, or even base jumping. This is not just because of NASA's mistakes in designing the shuttle, it is because of the inherent risks of manned space flight.

I would do it when single, however now that I am married there would be a moral dilemma for me. I believe it is acceptable, even admirable, for people with families depending on them to accept serious risks to accomplish great things. To do so for a thrill, however, is irresponsible pure and simple. I would have to have some sort of critical role in the mission. I just don't see how that could be...so I don't see how I could morally justify going.

But I've slipped up many ways before that were a lot less fun.....so I would be sorely tempted to go. Big time. And ask for forgiveness later  Smile .
 
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:05 pm

"NASA estimates the risk of death at about 1/100-200. This sounds low, but is actually very high. The risk of ridding the shuttle is much higher than even that of riding a motorcycle without an helmet. It is higher than that of ultralight flying, or even base jumping. This is not just because of NASA's mistakes in designing the shuttle, it is because of the inherent risks of manned space flight. "

I remember a fact that was trotted out in the wake of Columbia was that if planes had the same safety record as the shuttle, there'd be at least 200 major passenger plane crashes a day..........
 
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:34 am

Hell, yes I would. We're all going to die someday anyway, and what better way to go?
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:42 am

Yes, in a heartbeat!

Side-story - one of my team-mates from my time on my college track team is scheduled to go up next year - Tracy Caldwell. Oh the stories I could tell  Wink
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:26 am

I'd do it. No hesitation. I'd go to the moon and back if possible.
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:49 am

Absolutely. It is by far the pinnacle of flight, to leave the ground and continue till you're in outer space. The opportunity to represent your country for the betterment of all mankind is awesome. Every time I see the view of earth from he space shuttle I am always in awe.


"Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds...and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of...wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew.
And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God. "
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:12 am

I'd stow away if I thought I could get away with it.

The only ride I ever turned down was in a test dive of an experimental submersible. I turned it down for two reasons.

1. It would have made me miss going to work that day which would have cost me my job and

2. You had to sit in almost total darkness for several hours. If you had to go during the dive, you had to wet your pants.

The fact that there was NO rescue if it malfunctioned was just too melodramatic to consider. I am very much one of those won't-happen-to-me guys. I expect to die in bed but I still find the courage to climb into one each night. Yeah, I'd go!
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:28 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 6):
I'd do it. No hesitation. I'd go to the moon and back if possible.

Exactly. What would I give to spend a day in space or on the moon.
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:33 am

Of course I'd do it!
I don't really care about the safety record, because it's a chance to go to space.
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:42 am

Of course.

It may be 1/200, but that still means that you have 199/200.

Besides, you could get hit by a bus tommorrow. No one knows what the future holds.
 
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:04 am

Yes I would, like DL021, I'd like a CEV trip to the Moon more however.
 
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:08 am

hmmmm.

yas, yas i would, going to die sometime, what more a spectacular way than to be blasted into bits. of course it would be nice if i could get home and make thousands from the great photographic opportunity's up there
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:29 am

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 13):
blasted into bits

lol great... i would of course.. i think my nervs would be quit jumpy but after strapped and pretty much screwed being in there i would end up going... to bad nobody that is a member at A.net has been up there... there are alot of better pics from Nasa but oh well..
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:02 am

Jinx put Max into space!

I'd LOVE to take a "ride" on it, but like others have said, I'd be hesitant to do so as life marches on. Right now I have no wife or children, but when that time comes, I would have to give much more thought at accepting an offer like that.
 
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:51 pm

Quoting AislepathLight (Reply 1):
That is one of the more stupid questions, cause it is the shuttle, and yeah if it got dameged that badly during take off, you and the crew would stay in the space station and wait for a reliable capsule to come from Russia.

Well, since the mods won't delete this inflammatory post, I'll be happy to respond to it.

I think it's a VERY good question.

Foam isn't the ONLY risk. If you get blown to bits on liftoff from something else (say a SSME cuts loose and destroys the aft end of the Orbiter) then what's the point of having the ISS as a safe haven?

I think the only thing "stupid" I saw was your demeaning reply to the original question.  sarcastic 

Oh well. That said, if I had something valuable to contribute to the world of science by taking a ride on the Shuttle, I'd go in a heartbeat.
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:20 pm

Let's see...
Would I go in the space Shuttle? Sure as long as I don't go into space. I am waiting for someone to come up with artificial gravity so I can have a definate up and down.
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:57 pm

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 16):
if I had something valuable to contribute to the world of science by taking a ride on the Shuttle, I'd go in a heartbeat.

Contribute? I'd go as ballast! Lots of transports need ballast.
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:58 pm

Of course! Somebody has to take a chance.

1) Foam has ALWAYS shed off since the beginning of the program.
2) Just look at what your sitting on.

If we didn't fly, it would be safe, but screw that!

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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:17 am

The year of training would be the longest year of my life, but there would be no hesitation what so ever. Only a few hundred people have ever been in orbit, and that is just something so amazing there is just no question about it.

Manned rockets are dangerous, it is a fact, but I dont think I would be at an unacceptable amount of risk. And if that's how I die, so be it! We all have to die somehow, talk about going out in a blaze of glory....

While the deaths of our astronauts and the Russian cosmonauts saddens me, dying while in pursuit of a dream like space travel or anything else so important to man and important to the individual is not a meaningless death by any measure.

I will take a tile malfunction over a drunk driver crossing the centerline any day.
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:57 am

I´d go in a heartbeat. I can´t, unfortunately, since my vision is too crappy to get me into the appropriate track to fly the things, but I´d love to be able to.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 6):
I'd go to the moon and back if possible.

Or Mars.

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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:16 am

Sure,

I am wstill waiting for the FS2004 add-on...

/M
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:16 pm

hey, maybe if an a.netter did it they could get some pics of the interior.
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:51 pm

I would go any time.

What a wonderful experience this would be!

I would not be afraid of dying, it would not even cross my mind any minute. I guess we have the same risk with any airplane that we fly on.

Unfortunately I am most afraid that they will never ask me up there for free and I can't afford the 20 Million US Dollars for the trip. Sad
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:03 am

Recently there was a report saying that NASA was less than confident about the pressurized fuel tanks for the RCS thrusters in the shuttles. These tanks were re-rated back in the early 90s, and were to be reinspected in 98-99, but it never happened. The original makers of the tanks are out of business, and it would take too long to design and build new tanks for replacement. They tested these tanks and if they let go, they will not leak, they will explode catastrophically, almost defiantly resulting in a total loss of that shuttle.

All that said, even with the shuttle showing its age, I would take a ride for sure.
 
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:02 am

Quoting Oroka (Reply 25):
They tested these tanks and if they let go, they will not leak, they will explode catastrophically,

Two tanks would have to go at the same time for that to happen. The OMS/RCS oxydizer and fuel are hypergolic, meaning they only ignite when they come into contact with one another.
 
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:37 pm

Quoting AislepathLight (Reply 1):
That is one of the more stupid questions

That is one of the more stupid responses....  Yeah sure

To answer the question, I think I'd be too chicken to do it, but man; the sights, the senses, the experiences just might outweigh the anxiousness.
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:13 pm

I would go. That has always been a closet dream of mine, to fly in the shuttle. When I climb or rappel, I trust the rigging totally. Yes there is a possibility of it malfunctioning in some way and I go plummeting to my death head first on rocks, but hey, the experience and the sights I am rewarded with for doing it is well worth the risk. Sorry for the corny comparison, but there are a lot of risks we take in life, that is all I wanted to point out.
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:58 pm

I would without a doubt. The experience of being in space is the ultimate experoience in my opinion because you can't totally recreate it here on Earth. Anyway, if anything went wrong, you're not going to know about it because you would die instantly in most cases of things going wrong in space.
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:48 pm

Of course I'd go...there have always been tiles falling off the shuttle at launch...from the first launch to the most current launch. It is normal to loose a few. Also there is a risk no matter what with spaceflight. Being a crash investigator, although I have not crunched the numbers, I'm guessing your odds are still better being killed in a car accident than on a space shuttle ride.
 
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:26 am

ummm.....





YES!
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RE: Would You Go In The Space Shuttle?

Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:25 am

Hand me the keys and show me the way to the ISS and im gone!  silly 

Like some have said, we all die somehow, so why not have fun on the route there? Big grin

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