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B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:34 am

From what I have been reading in a alot of post, here in military aviation, the KC-135A was the loud aircraft the USAF ever had. Lately I have been reading that the B-1B with all four engines on A/B is as loud or louder than a KC-135A. I may have herd in person a KC135A or maybe it was a E model, anyway was one loud aircraft. I has not herd a B-1B in person, but I have herd one in flightlevel350.com and I was very impressed, if they are that loud on video I could not not think about how loud they are in person. From what I been reading, both the KC-135A and a B-1B will shank any with in miles of them at take off. Since the KC-135A has long been re-engine into E or R model, I can not hear one today take off, also there is not B-1b base near me, so I am asking anybody who has been base near both these aircraft to tell me which one is the loudest?
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:15 am

I believe the KC-135A was louder. I know it was louder than a B-58A with all four in full AB.
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:26 am

Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

You can ask the residents of Tye, TX which one is louder.  Big grin

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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:35 am

...............B-1..............LOUDER...!!!!
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:40 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
B-58A with all four in full AB.

you know for a second there I was going to say something about how is that possible, you are so full of watever... then I realized you said 58, not 52... SOOOO now I have a genuine reason to be jealous.. I would just short of killed to see/hear a 58. Too bad there is no way one of those will end up in private hands. I have a lotto ticket that's just itching to bring one of those birds out to play with.

PS: Of what I have experienced... the BONE is it!!!

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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:26 pm

Heard and seen both. Bone gets it hands down...

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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:49 am

The B-1 is the loudest thing I have ever heard in my life. I have seen two departures, and my ears are still ringing.
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:13 pm

The B-1 in burner is the second loudest jet I've heard... the harrier hovering being the first. But both are eclipsed by the sound of my ex wife nagging me.
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:52 am

Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 7):
The B-1 in burner is the second loudest jet I've heard... the harrier hovering being the first.

I seen and hear a harrier hovering at sea, and yes it is loud, but after nearly two years of hearing them hoover at sea on a LHA, they did not seem so loud.
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:57 am

What about the B-52G? It had eight noisy water injected J-57s, the KC-135A only had four!
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:03 am

Quoting Braud65 (Reply 5):
Heard and seen both. Bone gets it hands down...

Regards

Concur...especially in a 2-ship launch at dawn; each jet heavily loaded for live weapon drops on the training range. Takes a lot of power to get 84 Mk82 500lb bombs moving....you do the math  Smile

I'd like to see a comparison to the SR-71. I've heard that sucker was about as loud as any two (7 stage AB, etc.), but haven't experienced any of them in my AF career.
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:03 am

Not seen a KC-135 but I went to the Wright Brothers Centennial in Kitty Hawk, NC and saw a B1-B flypast. Now I've stood a couple of hundred feet underneath Concorde as it has taken off a number of times and I thought that was loud. Holy christ alive the B1-B eclipsed it pretty easily! As it came past the airfield with all four ABs on it aimed skywards and it was so loud (just crackles!) and so powerful I felt the force it was pushing out was going to adjust the Earth's orbit!!

I've seen the Harrier do it's hover thingy too. I used to fly out of Boscombe Down fairly often and we had the odd Harrier from RNAS Yeovilton come over and do hovery stuff. My building overlooked the flightline and it was pretty darn loud...the BAC 1-11 that taxied about 30ft from my window on a regular basis seemed pretty noisy too!

Trying to think of a few other noisy beasts:
-VC-10 again whilst at Boscombe...had one from Brize Norton come and do touch and gos all day once. Maybe a hundred feet from that thing as it takes off...thank the RAF for supplying decent ear wear!
-EF Typhoon...Jeepers, like the Tornado but louder, especially if you are in a single engined prop job as it takes off about 50ft from you
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:20 pm

Why does everyone say the Harrier is so loud? I've seen them many times at airshows and they arent anything outstanding. The B-1B on the other hand I gotta say is ridiculously loud. Also F-14, Mig-23 and Mig-25 are pretty ear-shattering. Especially Mig-23BNs.
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:19 am

VC-10 is also VERY LOUD. .... F-15 VERY LOUD.... B-1B VERY LOUD... these are all incomparable
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:44 am

Speaking of loud! The Hawker Hunter at the Hillsboro Airshow that tookoff (and crashed shortly after takeoff, which I btw, witnessed) was loud as HELL!  Wink

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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:11 am

Quoting CF188A (Reply 13):
VC-10 is also VERY LOUD. .... F-15 VERY LOUD.... B-1B VERY LOUD... these are all incomparable

A F-16 is louder than a F-15.
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:27 am

Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):

What kind of loud do you mean? If its the low pitched rumble of afterburners and thrust, I'd say the B1. But the KC-135's PW TF-33's on takeoff emit an unsurpassed, nasty screech that can deafen people if they are unprotected.
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:03 am

[quote=A F-16 is louder than a F-15.[/quote]

Maybe to your ears
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:04 am

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 15):
A F-16 is louder than a F-15.

hmmmmm..... to your ears perhaps ?
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:18 am

Quoting CF188A (Reply 18):
hmmmmm..... to your ears perhaps ?

Maybe it is my ears but at the 2006 Langly Air Show they had F-15 doing demo all day, but when the Thrunder Birds perform those F-16 seem louder.
I like the F-15 better than any USAF fighter today (ok maybe not the F-22A) but my ears my can not lie to me.
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:37 am

Quoting N231YE (Reply 16):
What kind of loud do you mean? If its the low pitched rumble of afterburners and thrust, I'd say the B1. But the KC-135's PW TF-33's on takeoff emit an unsurpassed, nasty screech that can deafen people if they are unprotected.

I talking about something that will rattle my guts.

Seeing that J-57 that powered the KC-135A was a turbojet. I would think it would have a high pitch loud rumble and thrust sound because of the lack of by-pass fans.

I funny how the TF-33's (JT3-D) that nasty screech, but the JT8-D has a low pitched rumble and thrust sound at take off.  Smile
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:24 pm

Yea those TF-33s really aren't much of a rumble...they just screech really nasty!! Which is a different kind of loud. What does the J-57 sound like? Screech + rumble? That's a killer combo I guess!!
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:08 pm

I saw a B-1B bank right at an airshow 4 years ago and had to plug my ears. Why doesn't the USAF hushkit these planes????

A great aircraft. Reagan made the right choice in 1981 ordering 100 more of these bombers to be built...

I saw a KC-135 takeoff and it wasn't nearly as loud...

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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:32 am

Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 22):
I saw a B-1B bank right at an airshow 4 years ago and had to plug my ears. Why doesn't the USAF hushkit these planes????

So plane lovers like me get to hear them!:D
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:34 am

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 23):
!:D

It was suppost to look like this.  Big grin
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:15 am

I have seen B-1B and KC-135 E?model both take off, Less than 200 yards from the flight line during the Arctic thunder training out of Eilson AFB in FAI. Deep throaty rumble the Bone had, very impressive, shook the vehicle we were sitting in. Was a great morning for spotting, A-10s, F-15s-16s British Sepecats, Canadian f-18s, shame that exercise is on hold for the war on terror.
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:41 pm

Errr Huskits on a B-1?!?

NOT Possible as the After Burners would soon remove the Hush Kits.

The BONE (B-1) Is a Military aircraft so is allowed to make as much noise as it likes in the defence of the US and its Allies.

Hush Kits  boggled 
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:31 am

back in the good o`l days on Soesterberg me and a buddy were standing against the fence thats not that far from the runway, 2 F111`s taxied onto the runway and lit their burners.

Now it was a very foggy morning, and those b@%@# didnt move for like 20-30 seconds (ok maybe 10-20 :P ).

Ive seen many planes in my life, but those 2 Upper Heyford 111`s were the loudest ive ever heard.

(Also the Buccaneer.. because you didnt hear it untill it was ontop of you, and when it was ontop of you the sound was amazingly loud)
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:30 am

Quoting Lurch (Reply 26):
Errr Huskits on a B-1?!?

NOT Possible as the After Burners would soon remove the Hush Kits.

 laughing   rotfl   rotfl 

That's a good one

Quoting M0j0NL (Reply 27):
back in the good o`l days on Soesterberg me and a buddy were standing against the fence thats not that far from the runway, 2 F111`s taxied onto the runway and lit their burners.

I have had several friends who where maintainers on F-15s in the 32d Fighter Sq at Soesterberg. Every single one without exception has said it was the BEST assignment they'd ever had. Too bad it's no longer an assignment option for us American G.I.s  no 
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:22 am

Quoting Lurch (Reply 26):
NOT Possible as the After Burners would soon remove the Hush Kits.

Could you possibly explain how this happens?  confused 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:39 am

Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 29):
Quoting Lurch (Reply 26):
NOT Possible as the After Burners would soon remove the Hush Kits.

Could you possibly explain how this happens?

The after buners would burner that hush kit off quick. Anyway why would any want to put a hush kit on a B-1B. Silly
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:57 am

@KC135TopBoom-

You saw a Hustler take of in full AB? Damn, the most beuatiful bomber never built. I'd trade watching SR-71s at Beale practice single engine approaches with one jet in burner, rolled to one side due to the assymetric thrust for taht experience, and I'll throw in another awesome view-

My X and I were walking the dog at BAFB when an SR flew overhead, it must have been flying with no throttle, no lift, only ground effect, it passed by about 30 feet directly overhead, silent as a whisper. It was easy to pick out the TEOC camera windows. Best view of an SR I ever had. (Worst was ripping my back open standing up in "C" Bay.)

Of course takeoffs were different.

On one deployment to Mildenhall, we transferred to Lakenheath due to runway construction, the SR was definitly louder then the FB-111s there.

Never saw a B-1 take off, but if it is louder then a Q model at MTOW on a hot day in Okinawa, it must have been louder then hell.
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:48 am

I lived in Boise once, looking at a map and guessing, 4 miles northeast of the runways and not under the departure corridor and you could hear the B-1's departing from across town.

When MUO has runway construction some of the planes move to BOI.
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:40 pm

B-1 has to be louder... Put it this way, at the Daytona 500 this year a B-1 departed DAB during the race with 43 cars at full throttle and everyone in the stands turned and looked to see wtf was making all that noise
 
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RE: B-1B Vs KC-135A Which Was Louder

Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:54 pm

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 15):
A F-16 is louder than a F-15.

I'd have to disagree. The Viper and the Eagle share the same engine only the Eagle has two.  

The loudest aircraft I've heard would have to be a toss up between the B-1 and F-22. The 119's on the Raptor put out some decibels with the pipes lit! BTW, the Beak (B-2A) may be stealth, but she ain't quiet.

PS> I saw a video of a BOne departing Long Beach (there for upgrade) and after it climbs out you can hear car alarms going off.   

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