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B736 Trainers

Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:02 am

I was leafing through the August 06 issue of Air International and came across something that says two Boeing 737-600s are being used by the Navy for training purposes. The only details being those are for E6 air crew training handled by VQ-7 Roughnecks for NTSU(?) at Tinker. It further states that the a/c would be replaced by simulators later. I searched the database and found this picture.....
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Does anybody know if the a/c have been repainted in Navy grey scheme, and if the interiors are still in airliner configuration or modified to simulate E-6 TACAMOs? Any new exterior and interior shots? Do they carry out transport duties on the side? There were only 3 replies to the 2005 thread and maybe we could get an update.

It's a pleasant surprise to know that despite its poor sales, the 736 has this other role with which to redeem itself.
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RE: B736 Trainers

Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:23 am

The aircraft are only being short term leased, not sold. I'd guess they will be returned to Lauda.
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RE: B736 Trainers

Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:36 am

The E-6's have been updated with a 737NG cockpit which makes a 737NG a perfect choice for training. They're cheaper to operate and somewhat similar to fly. I'll be able to tell you for sure in a few months (because I'll be flying it), but I hear the interior is the same as it was when it left Lauda and its still in the same colors. Don't really know much more, but I'll get more information in a few short months.

Here is a picture of the new E-6 Cockpit.


Here's a video that was shot from the ex-Lauda 736

http://flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_B...SA_-_Navy_Aviation_Video-2332.html

[Edited 2006-08-27 02:41:36]
 
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RE: B736 Trainers

Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:06 am

I thought the USN E-6 crews used the USAF B-707-320B training aircraft, just like the USAF E-3 crews do. After the B-737-600s are returned, what will the USN use for trainers?
 
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RE: B736 Trainers

Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:46 am

For lack of a better explanation the USN TF-18's, as they were called, pretty much fell apart. Also, with the new cockpits for the E-6 (which the E-3's don't have) the 737NG makes sense. I don't know for sure, but I'd imagine the Navy will get rid of the 737 at some point and go to purely simulator training.
 
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RE: B736 Trainers

Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:49 am

Quoting Ftrguy (Reply 4):
For lack of a better explanation the USN TF-18's, as they were called, pretty much fell apart. Also, with the new cockpits for the E-6 (which the E-3's don't have) the 737NG makes sense. I don't know for sure, but I'd imagine the Navy will get rid of the 737 at some point and go to purely simulator training.

Thanks, that make sense.
 
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RE: B736 Trainers

Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:16 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
I thought the USN E-6 crews used the USAF B-707-320B training aircraft,



Quoting Ftrguy (Reply 4):
For lack of a better explanation the USN TF-18's, as they were called, pretty much fell apart.

Venus6971 confirmed that in Reply 1 on the old thread..... Some Info On That Wet-Leased Lauda B736 (USN) (by Flynavy Jan 30 2005 in Military Aviation & Space Flight)
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RE: B736 Trainers

Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:40 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
After the B-737-600s are returned, what will the USN use for trainers?

They can use the C-40's they have........can't they...??
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RE: B736 Trainers

Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:07 pm

The TC-18s started getting scrapped a few years back. When did the last one leave the service?
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RE: B736 Trainers

Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:43 am

Quoting Socal (Reply 7):
They can use the C-40's they have........can't they...??

Well, there's only 9 of them in the inventory, and are in continuous use with VR-57/58/59. They don't have the time to end them becuase NALO and JOSAC needs them for missions and to fill the squadrons overseas DETs.
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RE: B736 Trainers

Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:19 am




Here's the 736 including an inside shot!

The plan on what to do with the 73 and when is still in flux. Some people want to get rid of it and replace it with sims. Others do not think the sim will be realistic enough and want to keep it around. There probably will not be a final solution for a year or two.


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RE: B736 Trainers

Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:31 am

Quoting Jaxs170 (Reply 10):
There probably will not be a final solution for a year or two.

Thanks for the photos and the info Jaxs170. So I guess the Roughnecks will still be conducting their training using those two airframes for quite a while yet.
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RE: B736 Trainers

Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:51 am

They only have the 736 right now, the former US Air 732 went away back in JAN '05 when they started training new students solely on the MDS (all glass). VQ-7 borrows planes from VQ-3/4 to train studs in the E-6 itself, they have no E-6s of their own.
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