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Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:47 am

Breaking: A mysterious object caught on videotape has caused NASA to posting the landing of the United States Space Shuttle, Atlantis.

The Air Force Space Command is attempting to resolve the object.

Source: MSNBC, live anchored coverage, with veteran correspondent Jay Barbree and expert commentator James Oberg.

More as events may warrant.

[Edited 2006-09-19 18:09:25]
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:51 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
A mysterious object caught on videotape has caused NASA to cancel tomorrow's landing of the United States Space Shuttle, Atlantis.

I suspect liberals and atheists  Smile

Any poss. of a picture of what was spotted ? Did it look suspiciously like a time-warp round-the-sun episode of Star Trek ?
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:55 am

NBC Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklazewski notes a report of unusual heat along a trailing edge of the Atlantis' wings.

Crew may be in danger, says James Oberg.

Return to International Space Station out of the question. Also, ISS experienced fire yesterday.

Live coverage continues.

[Edited 2006-09-19 18:04:52]
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:57 am

A) This belongs in Mil/space for now

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
Return to International Space Station out of the question.

B) Why?
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:00 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 3):
B) Why?

Probably not enough OMS fuel.

They are going to carry out another remote examination of the shuttle, delaying stowing of various antenna.
 
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:07 am

NASA press conference under way; Wayne Hale, NASA, confirms co-orbital object, says camera artifact ruled out.

Object may be from cargo bay or ice formation shaken loose by orbital firing.

Object still unknown.

MSNBC live coverage continues; NASA press conference carried live at NASA Website and NASA cable television channel.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:08 am

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 4):
Probably not enough OMS fuel.

For general information:

"OMS" = Orbital maneuvering system.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:08 am

Oh come on, it's a piece of debris, not Martians or something. Let's be a little less dramatic.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:16 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
Oh come on, it's a piece of debris, not Martians or something. Let's be a little less dramatic.

It would be absurd to conclude that it's the Martians. However, the object is still unidentified at this time.

[Edited 2006-09-19 18:17:16]
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:19 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
Oh come on, it's a piece of debris, not Martians or something. Let's be a little less dramatic.

Its dramatic because we dont know what it is. Sure, noone is pretending its aliens, but that doesnt mean it cant be a vital part of the Shuttle itself - thats the worrying part.
 
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:22 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
Crew may be in danger, says James Oberg.

If Jim Oberg said this I'd be a little surprised at him. That's an awful lot of speculation at this point. Where's Miles O'Brien when you need him?

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
Return to International Space Station out of the question.

Incorrect. Re-rendezvous can be accomplished.

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
Also, ISS experienced fire yesterday.

Nah, the Elektron overheated (what else is new...). A trace amount of KOH was released and there was a burning rubber smell (hot rubber gasket) for awhile but everything's fine.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
Oh come on, it's a piece of debris, not Martians or something. Let's be a little less dramatic.

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I'd say they'll be coming home Thursday or Friday. No problem.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:24 am

JBird, thank you for your comments. Please note that the "fire" comment came directly from a news source.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:40 am

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 10):
I'd say they'll be coming home Thursday or Friday. No problem.

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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:50 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
NBC Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklazewski notes a report of unusual heat along a trailing edge of the Atlantis' wings.

Crew may be in danger, says James Oberg.

Return to International Space Station out of the question. Also, ISS experienced fire yesterday.

Live coverage continues.

Its really sad to see comments like yours online. You post it all dramatically then claim your just quoting a news source. Quit copping out...you know exactly what your posts look like to the uninformed. Do some homework next time before you post. Talk about blowing hot air!!

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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:22 am

Quoting Checksixx (Reply 13):
Its really sad to see comments like yours online. You post it all dramatically then claim your just quoting a news source. Quit copping out...you know exactly what your posts look like to the uninformed. Do some homework next time before you post. Talk about blowing hot air!!

I'm sorry you feel that way. However, I did, in fact, hear the "fire" comment from a news source. I was merely reporting what I heard. In reporting live events, I try not to censor or inject opinion.

It does appear that the "fire" was merely a scare, although there was smoke and a chemical skill aboard the Station. The report I saw and heard, thus, was wrong to use the word "fire".

Please see:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science...-09-18-smoke-iss_x.htm?POE=TECISVA

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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:27 am

There was a fire alarm due to the crew pressing a manual call point (fire alarm button) after feeling an odd smell in the air.

The cause was the Electron leaking KOH after being started up. The liquid is irritant but not deadly. An emergency was declared to assure priority on all TDRSS comms channels. (The same is done in aviation and shipping).

You should all watch NASA TV instead of believing uninformed sensationalistic journalists.  Wink
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:35 am

It was properly reported what the cause was 2 hours after it was first reported yesterday. Thats why I have issues with starting a thread today with bad info. My comments were also in reference to the heat reference and the object comments. It was never reported that it was anything other than either space junk or something that came out/off of the shuttle. The only concern is that it is not off of the heat shield. My main concern with the initial postings were that it seemed that the poster was attempting to over-dramatize the reports, which has no place here. If that was not the intention, then I'm sorry...but that is what it looks like.

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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:36 am

Quoting Checksixx (Reply 16):
Thats why I have issues with starting a thread today with bad info. My comments were also in reference to the heat reference and the object comments. It was never reported that it was anything other than either space junk or something that came out/off of the shuttle.

Your concerns are noted. I was simply reporting what I saw and heard, and it is really not my place to say that it was "merely" a piece of junk, or something innocuous or soothing of that nature. It is not correct, from my experience, to say that it was definitively reported as something that was "either space junk or something that came out/off of the shuttle". The object was not known as to its nature or characteristics, other than the fact that it is shadowing the orbiter.

The object remains unidentified and, if it was a heat tile, for example, the discovery of same could be quite significant. NASA is currently working on the problem and it is important to understand that any prejudicial comments that it is "just" anything at all could be misintepreted as much as the overdramatization that your message criticizes.

In setting forth the tenor of reports, I find that it is best to convey the tone of those I experience rather than pretend that I know that all is well and post accordingly.

[Edited 2006-09-19 20:40:27]
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:11 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 17):
In setting forth the tenor of reports, I find that it is best to convey the tone of those I experience rather than pretend that I know that all is well and post accordingly.

However, making alarming statements such as ...

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
Breaking: A mysterious object



Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
unusual heat along a trailing edge of the Atlantis' wings.



Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
Crew may be in danger



Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
Return to International Space Station out of the question.

... makes it sound like Atlantis is in imminent danger, something like Apollo 13, when no systems failures have been reported with Atlantis, and this is a small piece of debris that was found in the same orbit. Serious enough to warrant attention? You bet. Should we be getting over-excited about it? I doubt it. There are thousands of professionals along with the experience of the crew to resolve this.

May Atlantis have a safe return to Earth.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:46 am

CNN is reporting that an astronaut has sighted a second piece of debris...
 
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:17 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 17):
it is important to understand that any prejudicial comments that it is "just" anything at all could be misintepreted as much as the overdramatization that your message criticizes

Prejudicial to what, exactly? I hardly think that any NASA engineers are searching for the answer to the mystery on this forum.  Wink
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:32 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
Oh come on, it's a piece of debris, not Martians or something. Let's be a little less dramatic.

If it happens to be a chunk of RCC then this would be a very dramatic problem.

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 10):
Incorrect. Re-rendezvous can be accomplished.

I think this is certainly true but not necessarily practical or desirable. Using the propellant required to return could easily leave them without the margin required to de-orbit safely. It's conceivable that a return to the Station would require a rescue mission to bring the crew back from a safety standpoint and also to simply reduce the mass of the shuttle in proportion to remaining propellant. They certainly are not going to attempt to "top it off" in orbit.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:50 am

Always the best news source for the Shuttle: http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html


There's no excuse for posting stuff you see on MSNBC. Go to the good source.  Smile
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:58 am

If the piece did come off the shuttle they (NASA) needs to ground all future shuttle launches until they can come up with a new more reliable shuttle.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Re

Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:20 am

I really think this is the "mountain out of a molehill" syndrome. Bits and pieces of things coming out of the Shuttle's payload bay in orbit is far from uncommon, and in fact is blamed for most of the UFOs that those so inclined insist are the flying saucer variety (and if all of those were true, we'd be looking at a scenario straight out of "Earth Versus the Flying Saucers"!)

But since Columbia was lost, NASA is playing it safe and wants to take another look at the critical parts of the heat shield (the chunk of Wing Leading Edge RCC panel that doomed Columbia was seen on radar in orbit but not taken seriously at the time.)

My guess, the objects seen are bits of insulation from the payload bay or ice from the wastewater dump valve. They appeared dark because they were in the Shuttle's shadow, seen against a bright Earth background. That happens because the insulation tends to move around a bit at launch and then is dislodged when the payload (i.e. P3/P4 Truss) is lifted out of the payload bay. The insulation or the ice came loose and floated away when the Atlantis crew did the pre-landing control surface checkout (which shakes the vehicle somewhat.)

NASA is playing it safe and will delay landing to give Atlantis another once-over, just to chase away the demons from Columbia. Since tomorrow's landing opportunity at the Cape was looking pretty hopeless anyway (due to weather), this was a pretty easy decision to make.

The weather forecast for Thursday or Friday landings is good. Atlantis has enough consumables to remain in orbit through Saturday. They can still return to the International Space Station, should this prove to be a more serious problem.
 
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Re

Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:32 am

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 21):

I think this is certainly true but not necessarily practical or desirable. Using the propellant required to return could easily leave them without the margin required to de-orbit safely.

There are other options, though. ISS and Atlantis are not that far apart. The ISS could actually do the rendezvous if it had to, with Atlantis a passive target. A combination of ISS and Atlantis maneuvering to conserve Atlantis' fuel is also possible. ISS could also lower the combined ISS/Atlantis stack quite a distance to bring Atlantis into range of a safe de-orbit (though that would eat ISS fuel reserves, but for now, they have plenty.) The big problem, I think is that Atlantis' electrical system won't last much past Saturday, so a re-rendezvous would pretty much eliminate Atlantis flying herself home.
 
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:02 pm

It seems like no one ever points out the fact that there have been over 100 shuttle launches and only one vehicle lost due to something coming off it. Now all of a sudden, any little piece of debris floating around or coming off can lead to the loss of the vehicle. Of course there is always a chance, but I think the shuttle is still a very safe vehicle.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:57 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
Oh come on, it's a piece of debris, not Martians or something. Let's be a little less dramatic.

Oh Man, took away all the fun . . .  laughing 

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 8):
It would be absurd to conclude that it's the Martians. However, the object is still unidentified at this time.

Along with the other 89,934,994,395,549,193,944,444,294.8 objects flying about in earth orbit . . .

NASA will find this to be a piece of space junk I'm sure. Atlantis will fly home soon and all will be well.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:02 pm

Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 26):
It seems like no one ever points out the fact that there have been over 100 shuttle launches and only one vehicle lost due to something coming off it.

Both Challenger and Columbia were lost because of the causes not originating from the orbiter itself. Challenger was doomed because of the O-ring problem on the solid rocket boosters. Columbia was lost because a big piece of insulating foam from the external tank hit its wing. In others words, nothing that came off of an orbiter ever doomed any mission.

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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:31 am

Quoting Thorny (Reply 24):
My guess, the objects seen are bits of insulation from the payload bay or ice from the wastewater dump valve.

I'd probably second that guess. Also, you all should see the lists of tools and other such FOD that gets "lost" while working in the Orbiters on the ground, never to be found. It's longer than you would think!

@AerospaceFan: Thanks for the comment...and just so you know, I promise I wasn't giving you any flak.

It's real hard to watch broadcasters report breaking news from NASA, because it'll always be NASA culture to speak "engineering" at press conferences. Engineers are logical thinkers that play out every possible scenario with every little piece of information they have. Reporters with little background knowledge of the subject have a tendency to "hinge" on the biggest, most exciting tidbits of engineering speak, and then fill in the blanks on their own. I have no doubt that what you said was what they were reporting at the time (I heard most of it myself).

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 21):
I think this is certainly true but not necessarily practical or desirable

True. It has not been said at the press conferences but I think if a re-rendezvous were to be required then that would mean curtains for Atlantis, as I really doubt the consumables required for fuel cell operation have any means for replenishment while in orbit (unless you could figure out a way to launch an EDO pallet AND hook it up in flight anywhere near safely, that is if Atlantis even has the plumbing to support an EDO pallet). If the fuel cells die and you have no external power then you essentially have a dead Orbiter.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:33 am

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 23):
If the piece did come off the shuttle they (NASA) needs to ground all future shuttle launches until they can come up with a new more reliable shuttle.

You should realize that foam and ice have shed off of the tank on every flight since the first flight. When you consider it is one of the most complex flying machines ever made, it's flight safety record is amazing. They have had tiles come off before but they were not on or near the leading edge surfaces. If they took your advice, they wouldn't fly at all. Your someone who I have associated with others as a "no-risker". Those "no-risker's" believe everything is SAFE until an accident and suddenly they think nothing should be done until its 100% SAFE. In other words, in this world they would never be called upon to do something brave...like test fly a new spacecraft for example.

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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:22 am

The briefings with Wayne Hale are legendary and in my opinion he talks in a way that makes it possible for children to understand what is going on.

If you just read/listen to media you see everything filtered to fit an agenda or just important things omitted.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:01 am

Quoting Chksix (Reply 31):
If you just read/listen to media you see everything filtered to fit an agenda or just important things omitted.

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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:22 am

Shouldn't we be back in : Offical STS-115 Atlantis Thread (by TPAnx Jul 24 2006 in Military Aviation & Space Flight)
???

Thorny: Where are the links for the landing ground tracks again?
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:26 am

Quoting BEG2IAH (Reply 28):
Columbia was lost because a big piece of insulating foam from the external tank hit its wing.

True, I forgot that part. What I meant to say is that stuff has been coming off of the orbiter, fuel tank, and SRB's since day one and only ONCE has it brought down the shuttle. So I'm pretty sure that's a better safety record than almost every government funded aircraft out there. If someone wants to crunch those numbers to prove/disprove me, that'd be great (i'm in the middle of making a 3-leg IFR flight plan for tomorrow night and dont really have time)
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:00 am

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 33):
Thorny: Where are the links for the landing ground tracks again?

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sh...s/sts115/mission_docs/landing.html
 
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:06 am

Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 34):
So I'm pretty sure that's a better safety record than almost every government funded aircraft out there

Sure, with two fatal crashes in how many flights - fifty? Yeah sure

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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:23 am

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 36):
Sure, with two fatal crashes in how many flights - fifty?

116.

Shuttle flew 88 missions between its two fatal accidents.
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Quoting Thorny (Reply 37):
116.

Your knowledge is always impressive, Thorny.

FlyUSCG, if you meant space when you said 'out there', you may be right.
You said 'aircraft', though.
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Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:24 pm

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 36):
Sure, with two fatal crashes in how many flights - fifty?

You obviously didn't read what I said. There has only been ONE crash as a result of a piece of something falling off and striking the orbiter (the Challenger does not fall into this category). So that's a crash rate of 1.15%, which is quite high. But you cant compare it to commercial aviation. The shuttle missions should be compared to military flying and more specifically X-Planes (many people will also argue that the shuttle is an X-plane in terms of the fact that it is in a constant state of development). So I think it's pretty safe to say that the shuttle is still very safe and all this debris nonsense is being blown out of proportion.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:15 pm

Technically the Orbiter is the winged vehicle, the Shuttle is the whole stack during ascent.
The foam that fell off the shuttle hit the orbiter.

This means that no object except for tiles have dropped off the orbiter.
Foam dropping off the External Tank part of the shuttle did destroy Columbia.  Sad
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

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Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 39):

Two Orbiters have been lost to whatever technical causes. Even if you want to count only one for some reason, relative to only 116 flights that IS of course a huge loss rate compared to any modern aircraft, including X-planes. The comparison to aircraft isn't fair I suppose, but you made that comparison.
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Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 41):
Two Orbiters have been lost to whatever technical causes. Even if you want to count only one for some reason, relative to only 116 flights that IS of course a huge loss rate compared to any modern aircraft, including X-planes. The comparison to aircraft isn't fair I suppose, but you made that comparison.

Two manned Soyuzes have been lost as well, with somewhat of a close call on a third just a couple of years ago.
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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:28 am

Congratulations to the crew of Atlantis for a most excellent mission!  Smile
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:13 am

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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:37 am

Some describe it as a shim-type thing between the heat tiles that might have shaken loose from the retro-engine firing. There was also mention that it might have been a plastic bag.

I saw an enhanced photo of one of the objects on TV that did seem resemble a plastic bag.

Next time, maybe they should bring along a more powerful telephoto lens and/or telescope.  Smile

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RE: Object Shadows Shuttle; Landing Waved Off - Report

Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:07 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 18):
Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
Breaking: A mysterious object

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
unusual heat along a trailing edge of the Atlantis' wings.

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
Crew may be in danger

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
Return to International Space Station out of the question.

... makes it sound like Atlantis is in imminent danger,

Dude, if you interpret those remarks as sounding like 'imminent danger', they are yours and not his problem. We all come to conclusions based on experiences only we experience. How is anyone responsible for what you are thinking?
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