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Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:55 am

This could be bitter sweat, Because yes, a new carrier is come to the fleet, but this also means the is the begining of the end for the good old battlecat ( USS Kitty Hawk CV-63). After 2008 the roar of those giant diesel engines and the sight of a long black trail comeing from a none nuclear carrier will be gone.  Sad
 
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:38 am

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 1):
After 2008 the roar of those giant diesel engines and the sight of a long black trail comeing from a none nuclear carrier will be gone.

Isn't Kitty Hawk, and JFK both powered by steam turbines, not diesel engines?
 
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:02 pm

The christening is great news! What a uniquely powerful ship, and well-named.

I might take this occasion to make note the crest for the U.S.S. George H. W. Bush, which includes an Avenger silhouetted against an F-18 silhouetted against a JSF. Excellent design.

All my best to this newly christened and mightiest of warships. May the wind be at her back!

[Edited 2006-10-06 11:08:05]
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:18 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 3):
May the wind be at her back!

I know this is an old nautical term wishing a ship good luck... but it's actually a bad thing for a carrier! The ship wants to head INTO the wind when launching and recovering aircraft. The headwind aids the aircraft.

Just a bit of irony.

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Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:56 am

Normally yes, but not required.

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Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:30 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
Isn't Kitty Hawk, and JFK both powered by steam turbines, not diesel engines?

Correct, both use "old fashioned boilers to produce steam for the turbines. Here's a picture of a BT lighting off a boiler on the Kitty Hawk.

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Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:11 am

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 4):
I know this is an old nautical term wishing a ship good luck... but it's actually a bad thing for a carrier! The ship wants to head INTO the wind when launching and recovering aircraft. The headwind aids the aircraft.

I mean it in the best sense possible; but since what you say is also true, I wish for the winds to be in whatever direction is propitious for our good ship and its crew!  

[Edited 2006-10-06 22:12:05]
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Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:12 am

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 6):
Correct, both use "old fashioned boilers to produce steam for the turbines. Here's a picture of a BT lighting off a boiler on the Kitty Hawk.

Correction, as of 1996 the Boiler Tech and Machinist Mate ratings merged. They are now refered to as Machinist Mates.

[Edited 2006-10-06 23:13:01]

[Edited 2006-10-06 23:15:04]
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:46 am

I aattended the chistening today . It went pretty quickly but there was a lot of rain, thunder and lighting.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
Isn't Kitty Hawk, and JFK both powered by steam turbines, not diesel engines?


Yes, they are steam ships but a boilers use DFM ( Diesel Fuel Marien) to heat there boilers up, so in a way they are diesel powered.  Wink
 
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Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:24 pm

This thread, although about aircraft carriers, reinforces the case for an "Oceanliners.net" website with a naval forum.  Smile

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 3):
May the wind be at her back!



Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 4):

I know this is an old nautical term wishing a ship good luck..

Reminds me of the last line on my separation letter, "Fair winds and following seas" - a distant 14 years ago. Or did I get that backwards?  old 
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Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:14 am

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 10):
This thread, although about aircraft carriers, reinforces the case for an "Oceanliners.net" website with a naval forum.  Smile

Or "90,000 Tons of Diplomacy".net.

 Big grin

I saw a reference to the carrier that described it exactly that way.  Smile
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Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:34 am

Good ship , should become active in 2009 or so , I think they should go for atleast one more of the Nimitz+ design ( such as this ship) before commiting to the CVN-21 which can then enter service in full spec rather then start with the low spiral Anyway the next one would be USS bill Clinton Wink and would be the first of the CVN-21 family of aircraft carriers !!
 
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Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:37 am

Quoting Bringiton (Reply 13):
Anyway the next one would be USS bill Clinton  

If so, I wonder if they will be passing out cigars at the commissioning ceremony....

 

I think it's great that they're naming our supercarriers after Presidents. Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Reagan, Bush, and the outgoing JFK. I also like the names, "Enterprise" and "Kitty Hawk".

Interestingly, among recent Presidents, there are no U.S. Navy ships named after Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard M. Nixon, Gerald R. Ford, or William J. Clinton, and of course, none named after the current George Bush (which isn't surprising, since he's still in office). There's a nuclear submarine named after President Carter.

It can't be because of when the Presidents served, since Presidents Johnson, Nixon, and Ford all preceded President Carter. I think it's probably because of a combination of factors, including politics.

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Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:43 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 14):
If so, I wonder if they will be passing out cigars

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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:50 am

^^ I'm just kidding about the cigar thing.  Wink

Interestingly, there's a recent proposal to name the next supercarrier after President Ford:

http://www.woodradio.com/cc-common/m...s2.html?feed=125494&article=518072
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:52 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 14):
Interestingly, among recent Presidents, there are no ships named after Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard M. Nixon, Gerald R. Ford, William J. Clinton, and of course, none named after the current George Bush (since he's still in office). There's a nuclear submarine named after President Carter.

The ships have to catch up to the presidents which are replaced far quicker then the ships need to be replaced , the USS bill clinton will be the next one followed by the G bush !!
 
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:55 am

Quoting Bringiton (Reply 17):
The ships have to catch up to the presidents which are replaced far quicker then the ships need to be replaced , the USS bill clinton will be the next one followed by the G bush !!

That's an interesting perspective, and it's worth considering. You could be right, although I think that there's also politics that goes into it -- as in that article I cited about a possible U.S.S. Gerald R. Ford, for example.  Smile

President Ford has just been admitted to the hospital again for a surgical procedure. He's getting on in years. I hope it makes it through okay.
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:02 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 18):
That's an interesting perspective, and it's worth considering. You could be right, although I think that there's also politics that goes into it -- as in that article I cited about a possible U.S.S. Gerald R. Ford, for example.

President Ford has just been admitted to the hospital again for a surgical procedure. He's getting on in years. I hope it makes it through okay.

Here is a good read -

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/names.htm
 
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:06 am

^^ Thanks for the FAS Web link!  Smile
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:10 am

Quoting Bringiton (Reply 13):
Anyway the next one would be USS bill Clinton

Bill Clinton should have a carrier name in his honor. He was the best president the US had in my life time.

PS: That's my opinon
 
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:17 am

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 21):
Bill Clinton should have a carrier name in his honor. He was the best president the US had in my life time.

PS: That's my opinon

Tell that to the navy blokes(hierarchy)   !! 2 men the navy hates the most in recent years have to be Bill clinton and Dick Cheney!!

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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:51 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 14):

I think it's great that they're naming our supercarriers after Presidents.

But I don't think it's so great to be naming them after living persons. In my view, it somehow diminishes the honor and reduces it to political kowtowing.
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:59 am

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 21):
Bill Clinton should have a carrier name in his honor. He was the best president the US had in my life time.

PS: That's my opinon

Well in all fairness... it has little to do with "great people" - otherwise we might have the USS Susan B Anthony.

Ships are usually named after individuals who have had some major impact on the Navy or who served admirably within the Navy.

Ronald Reagan and the 600 ship fleet
George Bush and his time as a young naval aviator
Theodore Roosevelt and his promotion of the great white fleet
and so on....

Just because he was "a great president" does not qualify him as worthy of a ship named after him.

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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:11 am

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 21):
Bill Clinton should have a carrier name in his honor. He was the best president the US had in my life time.

If there's a Democrat in the White House when the next carrier needs to be named, the Navy might, with the greatest of reluctance name it USS W.J. Clinton. Otherwise, I think the chances that the Navy will name a ship after him approach zero. Clinton may have been popular with the public, but he was largely despised by the military, especially the Brass, for a wide variety of reasons. They won't willingly name a capital ship for a man who spent every year except election years slashing the Navy's budget and authorizing pay raises that didn't even keep up with inflation.

I'd prefer the next carrier be named Lyndon B. Johnson or Woodrow Wilson.
 
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:53 am

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 21):
Quoting Bringiton (Reply 13):
Anyway the next one would be USS bill Clinton

Bill Clinton should have a carrier name in his honor. He was the best president the US had in my life time.

PS: That's my opinon

Yeah...but the next carrier will probably not be named after President Clinton who presided over a rather stark dismantling of the Navy with vessels retired before their time, and personnel cuts that made it difficult to get tours done.

I would actually rather that the carriers be named after the carriers of yesterday.....the Lexington, Yorktown (they'll be retiring the older CGs before too long), Saratoga, Ranger, Hornet, Enterprise (which is slated to be retired in 2012). These are storied ship names in the Navy, harkening back to some of our earliest vessels. Ships fought and died bearing these names, and we should be remembering those ships and their crews, as well as the battles for which some are named much more so than Presidents who had little to do with the Navy other than dismantling it. Presidents Reagan, H.W. Bush (although I'd rather have seen another name, no disrespect intended to President Bush '41 but that was political) T.Roosevelt, Washington and Jefferson all had involvement with the Navy in one way or another prior to being the President or did something as President to associate them with something special accomplished.

Now, however, seems like a good time to go back to tradition.
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:19 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 26):
H.W. Bush (although I'd rather have seen another name, no disrespect intended to President Bush '41 but that was political)

Maybe, but that was easy for the Navy to go along with since Bush 41 was a Navy pilot in WW2. They don't hate him nearly as much as they hate Clinton (although he is far from popular in the military for his botching Gulf War 1 and leaving Saddam in power.) If left to the Navy, the only thing named for Clinton will be a harbor tug, and even then the crew will wear paper bags over their heads to hide their identities.  Smile
 
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:40 am

Quoting Thorny (Reply 27):
If left to the Navy, the only thing named for Clinton will be a harbor tug, and even then the crew will wear paper bags over their heads to hide their identities.

Would the dinghy on board the tug be named "Monica"?

 Big grin

I'm sorry; that's rather mean of me.  Embarrassment
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:45 pm

The next carrier is CVN-78, the new carrier design. It won't be after Clinton, and probably not a person either. I'm betting either on America or United States as the name.
 
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:03 pm

It occurs to me that one downside to having the same first and last name as former President George H. W. Bush is that the current President, George W. Bush, might have to wait a long time before a naval ship is named after him, simply because of the confusion that could arise from the similarity in their names. Given that the new carrier is named the "U.S.S. George H. W. Bush", having a ship named "U.S.S. George W. Bush" while the former is still in service could cause problems.

As for the next carrier, another name, in addition to the others mentioned above, that would be suitable in my view would be "U.S.S. Yorktown". I think we'd have to rule out "U.S.S. Enterprise" because, in her form as CVN-65, she will have just been retired.
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:23 pm

Quoting Thorny (Reply 27):
Maybe, but that was easy for the Navy to go along with since Bush 41 was a Navy pilot in WW2.

Yeah...the rationale was that he was the youngest pilot in the Navy (supposedly, I don't know if there's been a tremendous amount of research on that) and that he served in combat off of carriers. I'm not saying that he's a bad guy, or even a bad President....I just don't know that he earned a carrier named for him. It's done, now, so it's a moot point.

Quoting Thorny (Reply 27):
They don't hate him nearly as much as they hate Clinton (although he is far from popular in the military for his botching Gulf War 1 and leaving Saddam in power.)

I don't know that many guys that hate him....there are some that offhandedly say that we would not need to be there now if he'd decided to go to Baghdad back in 1991, but they also aren't looking at the coalition that was in place at the time, or remembering the other factors involved. Hindsight says we should have done it, in my opinion, but with the info available at the time I can see why he made that decision.

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 30):
the current President, George W. Bush, might have to wait a long time before a naval ship is named after him

True....but mostly because he's not really ever been associated with the Navy other than being the Commander in Chief. President Reagan pushed hard for the 600 ship navy and the others served in the Navy (including TR who was undersecretary and forced congress to fund the Great White Fleet).
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:59 pm

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 23):
But I don't think it's so great to be naming them after living persons. In my view, it somehow diminishes the honor and reduces it to political kowtowing.

Right On!

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 24):
George Bush and his time as a young naval aviator

There were a lot of young aviators, but as Prez? Read my lips George, I want my taxes lowered.

Quoting Thorny (Reply 25):
I'd prefer the next carrier be named Lyndon B. Johnson or Woodrow Wilson.

I'd like to see a USS Monroe, maybe there was a ship named after him?

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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:28 pm

Quoting AirSpare (Reply 32):
There were a lot of young aviators, but as Prez? Read my lips George, I want my taxes lowered.

Well see, like I said earlier, it has more to do with "How did the individual positively effect the US Navy?" than "was this a good person?"

And I agree with Ian... naming it after President Bush 41 was more political than anything else. But the fact that he was the youngest naval aviator, he got shot up, ditched in the ocean, got picked up by a sub and rescued... and then led the Gulf War as president -- it made a good "cover story" for why they named the ship after him.

Anyhoo... I'm waiting for the USS Village People. Hell... we are talking about the US Navy after all.  Wink

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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:10 am

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 33):
Anyhoo... I'm waiting for the USS Village People. Hell... we are talking about the US Navy after all.

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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:58 am

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 33):
we are talking about the US Navy after all

It's not only the Navy that's represented there!  Smile
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:13 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 14):
I think it's great that they're naming our supercarriers after Presidents. Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Reagan, Bush, and the outgoing JFK. I also like the names, "Enterprise" and "Kitty Hawk".

Hmmm - still pretty tacky naming ships after people who aren't dead. Smack of politics. Same with airports.
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:58 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 36):
Hmmm - still pretty tacky naming ships after people who aren't dead.

 shhh  It's only been done once up to this point...  eyepopping 
Do you now which one it is?  mischievous   confused 
Hint~ it's in service now.

To the others who have had ships named after them~  tombstone 
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:24 pm

Quoting StudeDave (Reply 37):

It's only been done once up to this point...
Do you now which one it is?
Hint~ it's in service now.

USS Jimmy Carter. Same league as GHW Bush... lousy President as far as the military (and well, everybody else) is concerned, but a Navy man.

Was Carl Vinson still alive when he got a Nimitz-class named in his honor?

(Carl Vinson? Who? Let's see... USS CHESTER NIMITZ, USS DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER, USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN... and USS Carl Vinson? Cue Sesame Street... "One of these things is not like the others..."  Smile

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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:42 pm

So maybe it's happened twice~ that wasn't the one I was thinking of!!!
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:17 pm

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 21):
Bill Clinton should have a carrier name in his honor. He was the best president the US had in my life time.

PS: That's my opinon

The way Clinton continually dicked over the military, no one would want to serve on a Carrier name USS Clinton . . .

And I can only imagine the protests from the US Navy Veterans if the intent to do so presents itself.

Quoting Thorny (Reply 25):
If there's a Democrat in the White House when the next carrier needs to be named, the Navy might, with the greatest of reluctance name it USS W.J. Clinton.

 no 

Quoting DL021 (Reply 26):
Now, however, seems like a good time to go back to tradition.

Yup, before some moron at the Navy Department actually DOES decide to name a carrier after Pres. Clinton.  scared 

Quoting Thorny (Reply 38):
USS Jimmy Carter. Same league as GHW Bush... lousy President as far as the military (and well, everybody else) is concerned, but a Navy man.

And an excellent diplomat . . .

Quoting Thorny (Reply 38):
Was Carl Vinson still alive when he got a Nimitz-class named in his honor?

Yes, and attended it's launching.

After 50 years in Gov't service, he also completed record breaking twenty-nine years as Chairman of the House Naval Affairs and Armed Services Committee. Congressman Vinson moved through Congress the Vinson-Trammel Act which provided authority for the eventual construction of ninety-two major warships, the birth of the two ocean Navy. He also presided over the launch of the Navy's first nuclear sub.

One of the best quotes from Vinson: "The most expensive thing in the world is a cheap Army and Navy". Clinton could take lessons from him about that.
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:27 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 40):
And an excellent diplomat . . .

Hardly. The Camp David accords looked good at the time, but turned out to be disastrous (especially for Anwar Sadat!) Carter was an idiot President on all fronts. Let him stick to building Habitats for Humanity, that's the only thing he's good at, well, that and accepting accolades for the most non-specific reasons ever seen ("We give James E. Carter the Nobel Peace Prize because he's uh, he's a great MAN OF PEACE, he brought peace to... uh... Indon... no, uh... the Middle... no, uh... Afri... no, uh... next question please.")
 
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:42 am

Quoting StudeDave (Reply 37):
It's only been done once up to this point.

Wasn't Reagan still alive when the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan was launched ? I'm fairly sure the decision to name it after him was taken while he was still alive.
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:19 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 42):
Wasn't Reagan still alive when the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan was launched ? I'm fairly sure the decision to name it after him was taken while he was still alive.

Yes, barely. Nancy attended the launching, Pres. Reagan could not.

Quoting Thorny (Reply 41):

Camp David accords were not the only thing Pres. Carter got involved in after he left the Presidency. And building houses was the least of them. I weouldn't give you two shits about his time in the White House, but his post-Presidency has been one of the more benevolent in history. Here, read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter#Post-presidency
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:23 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 43):
Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 42):
Wasn't Reagan still alive when the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan was launched ? I'm fairly sure the decision to name it after him was taken while he was still alive.

Yes, barely. Nancy attended the launching, Pres. Reagan could not.

I think the ship was in Argentina on it's way to the west coast after shakedown when president Reagan died.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 43):
I weouldn't give you two shits about his time in the White House, but his post-Presidency has been one of the more benevolent in history.

And yet no less then Tony Knowles told him to take a hike in 1996.

Quoting Thorny (Reply 41):
Let him stick to building Habitats for Humanity, that's the only thing he's good at, well, that and accepting accolades for the most non-specific reasons ever seen

Sorry, I've seen him swing a hammer on TV, and pussy little 16oz claw....if you are serious about framing you need to be packing at least 20oz's.

Quoting Thorny (Reply 38):
USS Jimmy Carter. Same league as GHW Bush... lousy President as far as the military (and well, everybody else) is concerned, but a Navy man.

And a submarine is very appropriate for the man, he was the xo on the Seawolf.

Quoting AirSpare (Reply 32):
There will NEVER be a USS Slick Willy, except in maybe the Chinese Navy

Sounds like the name of a Vasoline tanker.
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:07 am

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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:28 am

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 40):
After 50 years in Gov't service, he also completed record breaking twenty-nine years as Chairman of the House Naval Affairs and Armed Services Committee. Congressman Vinson moved through Congress the Vinson-Trammel Act which provided authority for the eventual construction of ninety-two major warships, the birth of the two ocean Navy. He also presided over the launch of the Navy's first nuclear sub.

We can't forget about John Stennis contribution to the Navy when he was Chairman of the Senate Armed Service Committee. He definitely looked out for the Navy during his tenure.

Most of us have heard of the story about Admiral Tom Connolly reply to a senator who asked if better engines would suffice on the F-111B. The reply being "Senator, all the thrust in Christendom wouldn't make a fighter out of that plane". That Senator happened to be John Stennis. Senator Stennis figured out very quickly the McNamara was not going to have the Admirals speak if he had his way. So he decided to ask the Admiral Connolly directly and the rest is history.
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:04 am

why is the hull painted red below the water line while gray above it? well, i understad the gray but can someone explain the red?
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RE: CVN-77, USS Bush, To Be Christened 10/7/06

Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:26 am

Quoting Cancidas (Reply 47):
why is the hull painted red below the water line while gray above it? well, i understad the gray but can someone explain the red?

Its a thicker coat of paint. The part painted in red is underwater all the time, so a more special paint is used to help prevent rust, corrosion, and help keep barnacles from attaching themselves on the the ship, therefore reducing unnecessary drag. US Navy ships normally wear the red color, but its color can vary from passenger ships to private yachts.
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