The key change, they say, will be the Air Force's attempt "and probable success" in securing more stealthy F-22 Raptors beyond the 181 ceiling set by Rumsfeld's Pentagon.
|Quoting Ozair (Reply 2):|
Now we just need to convince Congress to place the F-22 on the FMS list!
|Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 1):|
F-22's are great, the more the better!
Just imagine how if Rumsfeld and Bush hadn't messed up Iraq so much (to the tune of US$2.2trillion) that would have bought all the F-22's ever planned, plus more B-2's, all the F-35's, more C-17s etc etc
|Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 4):|
The F-22 will still probably be too expensive for Australia...
|Quoting Ozair (Reply 6):|
The unit cost will not be that far apart, we are in line for F-35s at the top of the price curve whereas we could purchase F-22s at close to the bottom. I certainly would be happy to settle for 50-60 F-22s over the planned hundred JSF. Costs could also be saved by reducing the F-18 life extension and move the F-111 retirement forward a year.
|Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 7):|
So, wouldn't the proposed FB-22 be better suited as an F-111 replacement?
|Quoting Jutes85 (Reply 9):|
When do we get your leftovers?
|Quoting MCIGuy (Thread starter):|
Rumsfeld's Departure May Mean More F-22
|Quoting Ozair (Reply 8):|
single aircraft to replace both the F-111 and the F-18
|Quoting Legs (Reply 13):|
If the RAAF did go to an all F/FB-22 frontline fleet, would the possibility exist that the RAAF would hesitate to risk a significant part of what would be a relatively small fleet by sending Raptors to a combat zone? Although they would have an almighty deterrent capability.
|Quoting Legs (Reply 13):|
I'd like to see a mix of -22's and -35's, reduce the JSF buy to around 55-60, and supplement them with a smaller force of 15-20 Raptors, and since im dreaming, lets throw in a few more precious tankers into the mix as well!
|Quoting Ozair (Reply 14):|
But I have again hijacked a thread about the F-22 for my own selfish RAAF desires, apologies.
|Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 17):|
Quoting Checksixx (Reply 16):
They must be in idle because Raptors are very loud.
My thoughts exactly. I rate the Raptor second only to the B-1B for noise level.
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