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F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:01 pm

Just heard it on CNN Headline News.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/.../27/iraq.plane.crash.ap/index.html

[Edited 2006-11-27 14:19:34]
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:17 pm

Just saw this news item  Sad. Hopefully the pilot is OK and nobody got hurt on the ground.
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:01 am

Just how many F-16s are in Iraq these days, any ideas?
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:34 am

Quote:
Just how many F-16s are in Iraq these days, any ideas?

More than the number of A-10s they have over there....Something that should be reversed if you ask me....  stirthepot 

Hope he was able to punch out and find some friendlies pretty quickly....
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:46 am

Quoting Bingo (Reply 3):
More than the number of A-10s they have over there....Something that should be reversed if you ask me....

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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:06 pm

From KOAT-TV in Albuquerque:
Cannon [AFB] spokeswoman Capt. Rebecca Garcia had no immediate information about the fate of the pilot or the cause of the crash, which occurred 20 miles northwest of Baghdad.

Al-Jazeera satellite television showed videotape images of the wreckage. The Arab news station reported a pilot was dead in the crash.
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:58 pm

Of course Al-Jizzerra would want to say something like that.

Hope he pulled that handle in time...

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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:51 pm

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 6):
Of course Al-Jizzerra would want to say something like that.

What a stupid post. You can't even spell it ...
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:54 am

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What a stupid post. You can't even spell it ...

Actually before you go calling someone stupid, you might want to check your intel. I pretty sure he meant to spell it that way. Theres a double meaning in the spelling. Not something Berlitz would offer to teach in the seminar you must have taken, but its there none the less.

Besides its not uncommon for said network to air such statements without confirm the facts. Hell not even CNN or Fox do that here. Reuters is now saying that the pilot is missing. Childish antics aside, I hope hes just laying low waiting for the right moment to pop a smoke.
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:03 am

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 7):
What a stupid post.

And by you posting this... it makes you different, how?  Confused

In fact, PADSpot, doesn't it state in the rules "#3 Do not post a message on how you find a topic or user irrelevant, boring, childish or stupid."

Come back when you have something worth reading.  Yeah sure

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 7):
You can't even spell it ...

No... he purposely spelled it that way. It's a play on words. Check urban dictionary for the term "jizz." And then check Webster's dictionary for the term "dense."

Quoting TK787 (Reply 2):
Just how many F-16s are in Iraq these days, any ideas?

It's really hard to say at any given moment - because they're constantly in transit.

The USAF is not like the Army, where they deploy the entire unit for 13-15 months. They rotate in an out of country with far more frequency. But in general - speaking of Air Force assets in Iraq, the F16 is probably #1 or #2. I see them far more than F15s.

When calling in CAS - it's usually a F16, or hopefully an A10. We actually get a decent amount of Navy F18s helping out.

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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:36 am

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 7):
What a stupid post. You can't even spell it ...

What a stupid German, you can't see the hidden humor in a post.

Their news network is useless- they're our equivalent of CNN.

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 9):
They rotate in an out of country with far more frequency.

The AEF deployment cycles are about 6 months now, with 18 months home...fairley generous.

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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:34 am

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 10):
What a stupid German, you can't see the hidden humor in a post.

Now THATS a stupid post.

In any case, good news if he survived. Is the accident rate of the F-16 or other single engine planes larger than the one of double engine planes like the F-18, F-4 or F-15, or does the fact that it only has one engine not have a significant impact on safety?

[Edited 2006-11-28 18:40:06]
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:38 am

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 9):
When calling in CAS - it's usually a F16, or hopefully an A10. We actually get a decent amount of Navy F18s helping out

Thanks for the info.
How come not that many A-10s?
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:59 am

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How come not that many A-10s?


Same reason Lexus and Mercedes makes SUVs that were never really meant to go off roading....because if its high tech its obviously better.... blockhead 

We can thank people like Ret. Gen Chuck Horner for decisions like that. Atleast Horner later admitted he was wrong. If you can stomach its dryness and length, "Every Man a Tiger" by Tom Clancy and Horner has a huge discussion on this very subject...
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:11 am

"Their news network is useless- they're our equivalent of CNN."

It's now official since it's on the news website from the company (Newscorp) that brought you OJ's -"If I did it": Big grin

U.S. Officials Look for Details After Jet Crashes in Iraq

BAGHDAD, Iraq — A U.S. Air Force jet with one pilot aboard crashed Monday while supporting American soldiers fighting in Anbar province, a hotbed of Iraq's Sunni Arab insurgency, and U.S. officials were in the process of collecting details

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...32221,00.html?sPage=fnc.world/iraq
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:24 am

LOL, stupid fox.



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Nov. 27: Sun sets as a U.S. military helicopter and a flock of birds fly over Baghdad's protected Green Zone.

Hey UH, some one bent your hawk into a funny shape there.
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:24 am

That really stinks! The only thing I can say is I am glad it was not a freedom bird. But still I hope everybody is ok.
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:29 am

I want to tell you a story of a little boy that grew up to be a hero. From the time he could say the word airplane, this little boy wanted to fly. More specifically this little boy wanted to fly for the U.S. Air Force. I can remember as a very small child (I was not much older myself) this little boy’s passion for airplanes. He built models (with his dad’s help at that age!) of every plane flown by US forces. As this little boy got older his passion became deeper. Oh sure he had all the usual distractions of a growing boy like cars, girls, partying (I especially know the partying part….you see I got him in to a lot of trouble in that area!), but this little boy never forgot his first passion…….flying!! This little boy finally went off to college. It was always wondered by those of us in the know if this little boy would ever fulfill his dream. I do not believe it was ever in doubt to him though. In college this little boy met a little girl. That meeting blossomed into a romance and upon graduation that romance became a marriage. Not even that life changing event deterred this little boy from his dream. Immediately after marriage this little boy applied for Officer’s Candidate School and was accepted. Off to the Air Force he went. To no one’s surprise the little boy excelled. Suddenly the little boy was not just a little boy any longer, but a real bona-fide USAF officer. Some might say this was the beginning of this little boy’s dream, but as you can tell his dream started at a much earlier age!! This little boy served his country in several post when he became an officer, and I have to admit we were all extremely proud of him. But just simply being an officer was never going to be enough. This little boy next applied to flight school. Needless to say he excelled. Before long this little boy became a true Fighter Pilot and the fulfillment of a life dream had begun. We all watched as he excelled in his new duty and his life dream. I am sorry to say that he never new (because I failed to tell him) that every time he took off, I was right there beside him living vicariously thru him. Most importantly this little boy managed to stay very grounded in his faith and in his family. Once again I failed to ever tell him how proud I was of him for the example he set for all of us.

We were all anxious when the Iraq war began. This little boy was now stationed near the front lines, but as fate would have it his unit was not able to participate in those long weeks of action. This little boy came home safe and sound to a tour of duty here in the states. Fate has a tricky way of working though and this year the little boy got his opportunity to fly in Iraq. We were all filled with excitement and trepidation at hearing of his new tour, but we all understood that this was part of his dream.

This little boy is my cousin and that dream came to an end yesterday. It was reported yesterday that an F-16 went down in Iraq. What was not reported was the pilot’s name or his disposition and I will not reveal it here out of respect for my family. The reasons are unknown and his fate is yet unknown. Today our family waits and prays for answers, but I know if that little boy were standing here with us he would remind us to look to god and rely on our own faith.

Regardless of the final outcome of this situation I know in my heart that he was fulfilling his dream. If he is gone, then he went out doing what he loved best for the country he loved. Nothing more can be asked of a little boy who in my mind has become a hero.
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:26 am

Quoting F4U (Reply 17):

I pray that your cousin is indeed alright and the so-called 'news reports' about the crash are wrong.
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:54 am

Same here, hope for the best.
And thanks for sharing this.
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:17 pm

Quoting F4U (Reply 17):
This little boy is my cousin and that dream came to an end yesterday. It was reported yesterday that an F-16 went down in Iraq. What was not reported was the pilot’s name or his disposition and I will not reveal it here out of respect for my family. The reasons are unknown and his fate is yet unknown. Today our family waits and prays for answers, but I know if that little boy were standing here with us he would remind us to look to god and rely on our own faith

Damm, your and your family are in my prayers tonight.
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:27 am

MLB: Where you are always number one for takeoff.....
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:10 pm

According to the Luke AFB website, there is a family statement available, as well as information for a trust fund for the downed pilot. According to other sources, the pilot had 5 children, and is married.


http://www.luke.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123033323
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:16 pm

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 10):
The AEF deployment cycles are about 6 months now, with 18 months home...fairley generous.

DeltaGuy

Uhhh...but we actually don't spend 18 months home before deploying again. Right now for many its 2-3 months. The AEF program cycle runs 6/18 but for almost all in the AF it has never worked out anywhere that good.

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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:30 am

"According to the Luke AFB website, there is a family statement available, as well as information for a trust fund for the downed pilot. According to other sources, the pilot had 5 children, and is married."

Yes he has 5 children........twin girls born earlier this year. I ask all a.netters who read this to consider donating to this trust fund.

Thank you.
 
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:29 am

Quoting F4U (Reply 24):
"According to the Luke AFB website, there is a family statement available, as well as information for a trust fund for the downed pilot. According to other sources, the pilot had 5 children, and is married."

Yes he has 5 children........twin girls born earlier this year. I ask all a.netters who read this to consider donating to this trust fund.

Thank you.

I'm really sorry for your lost. When we learned of the incident and that the pilot had not survived, there was a moment of silence held in our mess hall.

I encourage everyone to donate to not only this trust fund, but to any charity that is dedicated to assisting the families of heroes that died in war. There are a lot of families who struggle emotionally, socially and economically.

One of the charities I donate too frequently is Fisher House. Although it's more dedicated to soldiers injured in war... their dedication and financial efficiency has touched A LOT of maimed/wounded soldiers.

http://www.fisherhouse.org/

F4U, please give us any information for the trust fund when you have the chance. I am sure there are quite a few of us who are eager to help his wife and children.

Again, sorry for your loss.

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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:41 am

Quoting Checksixx (Reply 23):
The AEF program cycle runs 6/18 but for almost all in the AF it has never worked out anywhere that good.

Well I trust what you say there- I've never been deployed and my Guard unit goes nowhere fast, so I haven't had any real experience yet with it.

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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:43 pm

The POC info for the trust fund is on the LAFB website...

The title of this account is "The Gilbert Family." Interested members of the public may write a check to "The Gilbert Family" and drop the check off at any Credit Union West Branch or they can mail the check to

Fighter Country Partnership
500 North Estrella Parkway,
Suite B-2, PMB #479,
Goodyear, Arizona, 85338.

Fighter Country Partnership emphasizes that this may be a tax deductible donation. For more information, contact Steve Yamamori, FCP executive director, at (602) 369-3531.
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:11 am

Quoting F4U (Reply 24):

 Sad Wow, I don't know what to say. I'm very sorry for your loss. That was a really touching story, thanks for sharing it with us. May God bless you and your and your brother's family during this hard time.

May he be at peace and have smooth skies forever  pray 

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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:33 am

I am really sorry to hear about your story. This must be a very though thing, for you and your family. The story you wrote, was really touching, for me expesially as i have wanted to fly for the RCAF for many years now. As soon as i finnish school I am most likly going to send my papers in. Even though i dont konw you or your family this really hit me. Thank you for sharing.
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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:15 am

CNN is reporting that Major Troy L. Gilbert's status has been changed to KIA.

F4U - I'm so sorry for your loss. Your story about your cousin is very touching. The beginning of it reminds me of myself however I didn't have the will to see it through as he did. My heart and sympathies go out to you and your family.

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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:45 am

Quoting Dl757md (Reply 30):
CNN is reporting that Major Troy L. Gilbert's status has been changed to KIA.

 tombstone 

Quoting Dl757md (Reply 30):
F4U - I'm so sorry for your loss. Your story about your cousin is very touching. The beginning of it reminds me of myself however I didn't have the will to see it through as he did. My heart and sympathies go out to you and your family.

 thumbsup 

Thank you for your service Major, you will be missed.

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RE: F-16 Crash In Baghdad

Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:15 am

To all a.netters I want to personally say thank you for your thoughts and prayers.

Troy's memorial service was held last Wednesday in Phoenix. There were over 2000 present for the service. I want to personally thank the service men and women who came to the memorial to pay their respects. The words that were spoken could not have been more touching to our family. I especially want to say a personal thanks to the fifty plus Patriot Riders that gave our family an escort from the service. It gives me a lump in my throat now just remembering your tribute to this boy Hero. I also want to thank the countless police and firefighters that lined the roads after the service. I count each of you as heros as well in your service to your communities.

Troy will be laid to rest in Arlington National Cemetary. A fitting resting place for a new American 'boy' Hero, amongst to true heros of our great nation.

Thank you

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