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How Much Did Mitsubishi Pay For The F-15 License?

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:48 pm

As I'm sure most of us know, the Japanese F-15s are built under license. In doing research for a paper I'm working on I've looked to see how much this license cost and have found nothing. Anybody have any ideas either of where to find the info or how much the license did cost?
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RE: How Much Did Mitsubishi Pay For The F-15 License?

Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:52 pm

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Thread starter):
As I'm sure most of us know, the Japanese F-15s are built under license. In doing research for a paper I'm working on I've looked to see how much this license cost and have found nothing. Anybody have any ideas either of where to find the info or how much the license did cost?

Mitsubishi was a subcontractor, not a licensee, I believe. It makes a big difference in the business arrangement.

This is greatly different from Mitsubishi's arrangement with Lockheed for the FSX.
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RE: How Much Did Mitsubishi Pay For The F-15 License?

Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:01 pm

While I am not certain about the details of the Japan F-15 deal, in general local production has more to do with offset agreements which are quite common both in the military and commercial arena requiring the seller often to purchase a % of the purchase price back in local goods.
Japan also in general has restrictions that defence products must have high local content hence why much of its equipment is often co-produced.

Another instance as such offset deals is Lockheed's sale of F-16s to Turkey. As part of the deal a production line was opened in country. The deal actually has been so successively, Lockheed has paid the Turkish aerospace industry to build additional F-16s for both Jordan and Egypt as they could be produced cheaper with better deliver dates than directly from the US production line.
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RE: How Much Did Mitsubishi Pay For The F-15 License?

Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:14 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 2):
Another instance as such offset deals is Lockheed's sale of F-16s to Turkey. As part of the deal a production line was opened in country. The deal actually has been so successively, Lockheed has paid the Turkish aerospace industry to build additional F-16s for both Jordan and Egypt as they could be produced cheaper with better deliver dates than directly from the US production line.

Well, plus it gives Lockheed a way to produce the F-16 while Fort Worth is busy with the F-35, and Marietta is busy with the F-22.
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RE: How Much Did Mitsubishi Pay For The F-15 License?

Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:15 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 3):
Well, plus it gives Lockheed a way to produce the F-16 while Fort Worth is busy with the F-35, and Marietta is busy with the F-22.

That actually did not play much part in the decision. The F-35 facility is adjacent to the F-16 facility at GD/Lockheed's facility. There is so much space there for manufacturing that they could open another line at both the Fort Worth and Marietta plants. They built those airplanes in Turkey for Egypt as much for political reasons as anything else. It got the deal done, while supporting two allies economically as well as militarily. They build M-1 tanks in Egypt, and are able, if desired, to place those items elsewhere as well.
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