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Spider Intrusion Affects Dutch F-16 Afghanistan

Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:55 pm

I was shocked to see the size and menacing looks of certain spiders mentioned in this Flight Article Spider May Have Caused Afghanistan F-16 Fighter Aircraft to Crash.

How can Spiders (or other insects/rodents?) gain access to the cockpit which should be sealed during flight anyway?

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RE: Spider Intrusion Affects Dutch F-16 Afghanistan

Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:32 am

They can crawl in during servicing, especially if it is open around dawn or dusk. Even taxiing can be a problem- you need to weigh up trying to keep cooler with the canopy open, verses ingestion into the canpopy (or engine) of anything from a stone to a spider, insect, etc.

I once got a/b out of Davis-Monthan and all of these bugs just jumped up around the canopy- good job we keep insect repellant in the ejection kit...

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RE: Spider Intrusion Affects Dutch F-16 Afghanistan

Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:53 am

Thats only one possibility for the crash. I very much doubt that claim though. Most spiders in that area seek shade all day and only come out at night. Further, they are almost never seen on a hot flightline. Of course the 'camel spider', is not a spider at all and I don't see how one could have ever made it into the cockpit.
 
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RE: Spider Intrusion Affects Dutch F-16 Afghanistan

Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:01 am

Quoting BOACVC10 (Thread starter):

Haha, those spiders are actually very small. But gross looking. Also the last picture of the bite in your article is actually a bite caused by a American spider. The Brown Recluse.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/bugs/camelspider.asp



Look how small the spider is.

[Edited 2007-08-08 18:08:07]
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RE: Spider Intrusion Affects Dutch F-16 Afghanistan

Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:07 am

Quoting KPDX (Reply 3):
those spiders are actually very small

hi, "small" = 5 or 6 inches according to the article text and the accompanying article in National Geographic. How could they climb up the wheels and the smooth fuselage surface vertically and enter the cockpit. Might someone have intentionally put in a spider just for fun ?

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RE: Spider Intrusion Affects Dutch F-16 Afghanistan

Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:10 am

Quoting BOACVC10 (Reply 4):
hi, "small" = 5 or 6 inches

I edited my post with a new, better video showing the size. Check it out.

Quoting BOACVC10 (Reply 4):
How could they climb up the wheels and the smooth fuselage surface vertically and enter the cockpit. Might someone have intentionally put in a spider just for fun ?

I'm not sure, they can climb still.

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RE: Spider Intrusion Affects Dutch F-16 Afghanistan

Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:37 am

the first picture in the article is a known fake (or rather not what it appears to be). The spider in it (actually if you look closely it's several of them) is sitting on the camera lens, therefore appears very much magnified.
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