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Typhoon Cannon Armament

Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:28 am

I understand the Royal Air Force doesn't intend to use the cannon designed for the Eurofighter Typhoon, but I've yet to see a photo of one of these airplanes in service with any of the other countries employing it where the cannon appears to be installed. I know the cannon is found on the right side of the airplane, adjacent to the fuselage and the barrel extends into a fairing on the right wing leading edge. There's no opening in any of the fairings I've seen, which leads me to believe the cannon isn't installed or the opening is covered to prevent FOD to the cannon barrel.

Can someone shed some light on what's going on here? I understand the Typhoon has passed the tests associated with the cannon and it's cleared for service with the user air forces.
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RE: Typhoon Cannon Armament

Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:35 am

The cannon is installed on all aircraft. They thought about using some ballast substitute, but it worked out to be less expensive to leave the thing in there. The RAF is evidently not going to use it because they want to save money. SOme accountant decided that the airplane would never need a gun, thus proving that people who don't read history are doomed to repeat it, and ensured that the RAF will lose an airplane one day to close air-air combat or that some Para or Marine on the ground is going to die because the RAF aircraft overhead will be winchester without a gun....

As far as I know the rest of the ordering services will be training to use the thing and will support it logistically.
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RE: Typhoon Cannon Armament

Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:47 am

Quoting DL021 (Reply 1):
The cannon is installed on all aircraft. They thought about using some ballast substitute, but it worked out to be less expensive to leave the thing in there. The RAF is evidently not going to use it because they want to save money. SOme accountant decided that the airplane would never need a gun, thus proving that people who don't read history are doomed to repeat it, and ensured that the RAF will lose an airplane one day to close air-air combat or that some Para or Marine on the ground is going to die because the RAF aircraft overhead will be winchester without a gun....

As far as I know the rest of the ordering services will be training to use the thing and will support it logistically.

Thanks for the reply. I presume the barrel opening is left covered, then, until a mission is flown that requires actual cannon use.
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RE: Typhoon Cannon Armament

Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:12 am

I was under the impression that all these proposals (not installing/ installing but not using) where ultimately reversed and nowadays the RAF has a full working cannon that can be used and they do also train with it.

Just something I seem to have read in a magazine or on PPRUNE or on the forums of Keypublishing.

Edit : it seem that it was decided at the end of September 2006 that the cannon will be fully functional

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...?xml=/news/2006/10/03/ntyph03.xml/

[Edited 2007-08-12 22:18:31]
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RE: Typhoon Cannon Armament

Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:18 am

The canon is installed and WILL be used. The RAF dropped both the idea to replace it with ballast weight and the idea not to use it.
 
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RE: Typhoon Cannon Armament

Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:35 am

The cannon was installed on RAF Typhoons, and will be usable on all the aircraft from Tranche 1 Block 5 (including upgrades).
 
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RE: Typhoon Cannon Armament

Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:36 am

Worth noting, that RAF Typhoons are going to Afghanistan next year.
I suspect that the cannon will be more than just operational, it will be used in anger.
Also, replacing the F.3 flight at Mount Pleasant on the Falklands, will need an operational cannon, if only to give a warning shot capability against straying aircraft, something the MoD seemed to have forgotten was hastily fitted to BAC Lightnings in the 60's, after later models deleted them, just as Soviet aircraft started making more incursions around the UK airspace area!

(After BAE made a complete bollocks of the ROF ADEN 25 for the RAF Harriers, time to ask those nice people at the USMC if they have some GAU-12 25mm guns to spare? Cannon have been missed a few times on the Harriers in country. The Typhoon deployment giving time to get, inter-gate and train on the Harriers).

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