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Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:28 pm

From FlightGlobal:

PICTURES: Boeing delivers first EA-18G 'Growler' to US Navy
By Stephen Trimble

Boeing on 25 September delivered the first of 90 planned EA-18G Growler electronic attack aircraft to the US Navy.


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Flight testing of the EA-18G is expected to conclude during 2008, with the aircraft scheduled to achieve initial operational capability in 2009, when it will begin to replace the USN's Northrop Grumman EA-6B Prowlers.



my question is how does the EA-18 differ from the F/A-18? are the WSO's panels any different due to the different mission? is this airplane capale of supporting inflight refueling the way the EA-6Bs used to be?

once the EA-6Bs are totally gone, is the S-2 going to be the only non-boeing airplane in the USN's carrier-borne fleet?
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:38 pm

Quoting Cancidas (Thread starter):
is this airplane capale of supporting inflight refueling the way the EA-6Bs used to be?

The Navy never used the EA-6B for inflight refueling. You might be thinking of the KA-6.

Quoting Cancidas (Thread starter):
once the EA-6Bs are totally gone, is the S-2 going to be the only non-boeing airplane in the USN's carrier-borne fleet?

The S-3 is being retired as well. The Northrup Grumman E-2 will still be around for some time to come. I suspect that when the last Super Hornet is flown to the desert the crew will be picked up by an E-2.  Wink
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:39 pm

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 1):
The Northrup Grumman E-2 will still be around for some time to come. I suspect that when the last Super Hornet is flown to the desert the crew will be picked up by an E-2.

Which is also due for replacement once the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye EIS starting in 2011. Maybe the newer E-2Cs would soldier on some more.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...e-2d-advanced-hawkeye-flights.html

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ed-hawkeye-makes-first-flight.html

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...lls-out-e2-d-advanced-hawkeye.html
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:48 am

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 1):
The Navy never used the EA-6B for inflight refueling. You might be thinking of the KA-6.

that does make more sense. how is the current mid-air refueling performed? is it a pod that contains the refueling equipment or is the equipment specific to the airplanes?
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:42 am

Quoting Cancidas (Reply 3):
that does make more sense. how is the current mid-air refueling performed? is it a pod that contains the refueling equipment or is the equipment specific to the airplanes?



Quoting LMP737 (Reply 1):
The Navy never used the EA-6B for inflight refueling. You might be thinking of the KA-6.

It is my understanding that there is indeed a refueling pod that can be slung underneath any aircraft with a hardpoint. Whether that is true or not I don't know. I do know however that the Hoovers could act as tankers.
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:28 pm

Quoting Cancidas (Reply 3):
that does make more sense. how is the current mid-air refueling performed? is it a pod that contains the refueling equipment or is the equipment specific to the airplanes?

The KA-6D is a modified Intruder with the hose and drogue assembly mounted inside the fuselage. External tanks on the wings provide the transfer fuel, I believe.
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:30 pm

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 1):
The S-3 is being retired as well. The Northrup Grumman E-2 will still be around for some time to come. I suspect that when the last Super Hornet is flown to the desert the crew will be picked up by an E-2.
Don't forget about he F-35C built by LM which will be operating off carrier decks in the near future.

What is the Navy using for a carrier base anti-submarine airplane then?
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:44 pm

Quoting Cancidas (Reply 3):
that does make more sense. how is the current mid-air refueling performed? is it a pod that contains the refueling equipment or is the equipment specific to the airplanes?

They strap a buddy pod to a Super Hornet, which I find a bit ironic.

Quoting KevinSmith (Reply 4):
It is my understanding that there is indeed a refueling pod that can be slung underneath any aircraft with a hardpoint. Whether that is true or not I don't know. I do know however that the Hoovers could act as tankers.

Since the EA-6B is nothing more than a stretched A-6 you probably could strap one to it. However you would then have to have the associated gear in the cockpit for it.

Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 6):
What is the Navy using for a carrier base anti-submarine airplane then?

As far as fixed wing is concerned, nothing. The Navy did add some additional SH-60's with dipping sonar to the CAG. Not much of a replacement IMHO.
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:57 pm

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 7):
Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 6):
What is the Navy using for a carrier base anti-submarine airplane then?

As far as fixed wing is concerned, nothing. The Navy did add some additional SH-60's with dipping sonar to the CAG. Not much of a replacement IMHO.

Any reason your not counting the S-3's and P-3's for fixed wing???
 
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:26 pm

Quoting Checksixx (Reply 8):
Any reason your not counting the S-3's and P-3's for fixed wing???

Becasue you can't land a P-3 on a carrier.  Smile
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:04 pm

Quoting Cancidas (Reply 3):
how is the current mid-air refueling performed? is it a pod that contains the refueling equipment or is the equipment specific to the airplanes?



Quoting LMP737 (Reply 7):
They strap a buddy pod to a Super Hornet, which I find a bit ironic.

No, the F/A-18C/D are the only Hornets used for buddy refueling. The SuperBug is only the receiver, not the tanker.
 
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Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:51 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
No, the F/A-18C/D are the only Hornets used for buddy refueling. The SuperBug is only the receiver, not the tanker.

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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:10 am

Only a matter of time before we see some in USMC colors! (As soon as the Corps get's their head outta their buttocks and looks at how much money they have left to spend on their Air Wing after the pay for the V-22, H-1+, H-53K, and C-130J's maybe they'll come to their senses?!)
 
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:17 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
No, the F/A-18C/D are the only Hornets used for buddy refueling. The SuperBug is only the receiver, not the tanker.

So how did I take this shot then?  Wink

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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:21 am

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 9):
Quoting Checksixx (Reply 8):
Any reason your not counting the S-3's and P-3's for fixed wing???

Becasue you can't land a P-3 on a carrier.

Yeah you got me there! Sorry, I meant to only put S-3's but the P-3's popped into my head too! Thanks!
 
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:25 am

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 13):
So how did I take this shot then?

He may not have known...no biggie...nice shot though! Here is one from navy.mil

 
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:15 am

Buddy tanking in a Super Hornet - What a horrible waste of a fighter pilot's ego?!  Smile
 
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RE: Boeing Delivers First EA-18G To USN

Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:23 am

Quoting Checksixx (Reply 8):
Any reason your not counting the S-3's and P-3's for fixed wing???

An earlier comment made in this thread stated the S-3s were being phased out. That was what prompted me to ask what the Navy is using for a fixed wing anti-submarine airplane, operating from the carriers. I have a feeling the Navy will regret this if the Russians build their military forces to the levels they maintained during the Cold War.
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