|Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 1):|
If the Marine a/c aren't going to be optimized for the Marine mission, then what's the point in the a/c and crews being Marine rather than Navy? If the operational issues are insurmountable then it might be appropriate to reconsider the law requiring Marine air wings on carriers.
Remember that it is the F-35C which will be optimized to be used from a CVN, not the F-35B. F-35B's replacing AV
-8B's is great, but when they are to replace existing Marine C/D Hornets and operate them off USN
CVN's, their paying more money for a less capable aircraft whilst operating off a CVN. F-35B's won't be able to carry as much ordinance, loiter on station as long during CAS, won't be able to go as far, will screw up the CVN's decks, and all while costing the Corps more moeny up front as well as down the road in maintenance.
In my opinion given the USMC
's budget for replacing everything in their entire Air Wing which has to be stretched to it's limits I think the most appropriate thing for the Corps to do is replace their leagcy Hornets with F/A-18F's just like the USN
did, saving billions that have already been spent on the V-22 Osprey, and sharing a wealth of commonality with the USN
. The Corps could place a healthy order for F/A-18F Block II
's and EA
-18G's, save a tremendous amount in taxpayer money that can used elsewhere within the Air Wing, and still obtain all the performance they will ever be able to use. Bone up on the latest on the F/A-18F II
-18G combo package that has the Aussies considering 2 or 3 more Super Hornet squadrons; Av Week 10/1 has another article on it's "cyber-kinetic" capabilites.
|Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 2):|
The question I have is why are these issues being raised now? Shouldn't someone have rang the bell a while back if these issues are valid?
Great question - now we're funding an all new class of LHA
's that will feature NO WELL DECK for the grunts equipment so they will have a larger hangar bay and flight deck for the F-35B's - remind us all again why the MAW even exits? That's right, to serve the boots on the ground.
|Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):|
When will the USN ever pull their heads out of their ass? The F-35B will fly from the LHAs and LPDs, not from the CVNs (that are another 250nm further out to sea) the F-35C flys from.
This is simply another way to put more F-35Cs into the fleet, aboard the CVNs. But, here it is at the expense of the grunts. What does the USN expect the USMC use for air support during forced and opposed incursions? USN TACAIR will be back protecting the carriers.
Perhaps the USAF will step up to the plate to help the Marines?
I don't think you understand the equation. F-35B's replacing AV
-8B's who now deploy off of LHD
/A's is one thing, but what about the USMC
Hornets who since 2004 as the article points out are suppossed to serve with every carrier air wing on USN
CVN's that are to as the Corps desires be replaced by F-35B's? It's stupid and illogogical - if you're going to operate off CVN's than you would be wise to use the variant at least optimized for CVN use, would you not? The Corps is trying to get too cute here, their forgetting their history, mission, and the little anchor on their emblem that denotes their inherent mission with the USN
. And that old ploy of the USAF
to operate F-35B's was even more ridiculous than F-35B's operating off of CVN's!