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Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:42 pm

Apparently one of the 310s is getting a face lift. Any idea which one it is exactly? Do we know if the same colours are being kept? I've always thought the scheme to be cool but a little too stealthy looking for the PM.

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Colum...ton_Joe/2007/12/18/4730082-sun.php


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RE: Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:00 pm



Quoting YOWza (Thread starter):
I've always thought the scheme to be cool but a little too stealthy looking for the PM.

Looks much more like something of a military transport or tanker aircraft when compared to the U.S. counterpart with the color scheme used since President Kennedy incorporated it back in 1962:

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Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:08 pm

You don't have to have a head of state aircraft at all. The PM uses BA or sometimes a VC10 VIP transport. The queen has her 146, but it is knackered and she only rarely uses it anyway.
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RE: Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:14 pm

Well, that paint scheme makes Canada seem pretty dreary. The A/C looks like it's owned by the government of a Soviet-era, East-block country...

P.S. I preferred Air Canada's bright and assertive red and white livery to their present high tech and watered down offering.

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RE: Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:31 pm

Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 3):
Come on Canada, show your true colors.

Whatever it might ending up looking like, the painters will make it special -since it might be their last job.....

and by the way, Canada has no "Air Force" -it's "Canadian Forces"


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RE: Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:54 pm

Wouldn't be that unusual that Canada's Air Force One would get a new colourscheme. There seems to be a trend in some AFs to have a dedicated aircraft for use by the Chief Executive and/or his cabinet painted in a special colourscheme. In our case, Germany's Air Force One aircraft (10+21 and 10+22) were painted in the White-Blue-Grey VIP colourschme of the Luftwaffe before they got the new "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" colours back around 2003 or 2004.

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RE: Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:03 am



Quoting Scooter01 (Reply 4):
and by the way, Canada has no "Air Force" -it's "Canadian Forces"

Actually we have an "Air Force" command within the Canadian Forces.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/home_e.asp

As for the CC-150, there isn't a dedicated aircraft for VIP use. All five of the aircraft can be reconfigured for troop, cargo, medical or VIP use. The Toronto Sun article is short on facts regarding the CC-150 and is mainly bashing AC for closing down the paint shop. They just spun in the PM for dramatic effect in regards to the CC-150 being repainted.

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Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:55 pm



Quoting Boeingfixer (Reply 6):
As for the CC-150, there isn't a dedicated aircraft for VIP use. All five of the aircraft can be reconfigured for troop, cargo, medical or VIP use.

Isn't the CC-150 also used as a tanker, too. I believe the CC-150s actually replaced the CC-137 tankers (B-707-320Cs, or KC-707s?) the RCAF flew, when it was the RCAF.
 
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RE: Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:22 pm

Canada has 5 CC-150. 1 VIP, 2 MRTT, and 2 Combi.

I really like the CC-150 paint as it is now. It is a tactical colour, modern looking, but retains the classic lightening bolt layout of the CC-137. I was really dissapointed when pics of our first CC-17 didnt have a variation lightening bolt on it. IMO Canada has the best paint jobs on its aircraft, esp the special occasion CF-188s.


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RE: Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:43 pm



Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 3):
Well, that paint scheme makes Canada seem pretty dreary. The A/C looks like it's owned by the government of a Soviet-era, East-block country...

A not too bad hybrid between a real tactical color scheme and a representational color scheme. It's practical. I like it.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 5):
In our case, Germany's Air Force One aircraft (10+21 and 10+22) were painted in the White-Blue-Grey VIP colourschme of the Luftwaffe before they got the new "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" colours back around 2003 or 2004.

Which they had better never done. The "new" scheme is plain ugly. I hope the Global Expresses and ACJs next year come with a new color scheme that reflects what Germany really is or what it stands for ... the current paint scheme looks like a bad performance of the The Dying Swan (while Anna Pavlova would turn over in her grave)
 
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RE: Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:34 am

I have heard the Polaris aircraft often referred to as the “a sheep in a wolf’s skin” because of its unique colour scheme. I hope the new paint job will still be based on darker colours as the CC-150s are primarily used for military ops.

Kindly post any pics of the new scheme, thanks!

Quoting Boeingfixer (Reply 6):
As for the CC-150, there isn't a dedicated aircraft for VIP use. All five of the aircraft can be reconfigured for troop, cargo, medical or VIP use.

I understand that there is no designated aircraft, but is 001 used most often as CanForce 1 ?

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RE: Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:08 pm

Any updates gents?

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RE: Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:38 am



Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 3):
Well, that paint scheme makes Canada seem pretty dreary. The A/C looks like it's owned by the government of a Soviet-era, East-block country...

I don't know, I actually think it make it look stealthy, and well, "cool". Can't wait to see the new scheme though!



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RE: Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:22 pm

The gray color on the CC-150s looks like a much darker shade than that on the CC-177s. Is that true, or isw it just the lighting effects of the camera?
 
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RE: Canadian "Air Force One" Getting New Paint

Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:37 pm



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 13):
The gray color on the CC-150s looks like a much darker shade than that on the CC-177s. Is that true, or isw it just the lighting effects of the camera?

The CC150 has a finish that is closer to Gloss than the Matt of the CC177, I don't have access to the Mil Spec right now but I will try and find out.

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