NIKV69
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ID Help On A C130! Help!

Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:23 am

Ok as a couple here may be aware of I shot a what seems to be a ghost C130 at IFP (Laughlin/Bullhead Intl) I am about to upload and for the life of me can't ID this thing. Since I would like to not upload as unknown if I can avoid it does anybody here have any idea who this is? I can tell you that it landed in Bullhead City, AZ. Late last Thursday the 10th with 4 Blackhawks landing somewhat after. They spent the night and the 130 departed early morning of Friday the 11th again the Blackhawks fired up a little after and tho I left I am sure they did too. Nobody at the airport or tower has any idea who it was, well my good friend there seems to think it's a certain you know who but everyone else I ask has no clue. Any help here would be appreciated.

Here she is.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/905683/c130ifpnik2.jpg
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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:36 am

Hi Nick...
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner on this aircraft. Unfortunatly I didn't find much info.
I do know this tho...this bird is a civilian Herk, built in 1989 for World Wide Trading Inc.,
originally as N4281M, and has been re-registered many times since then. I'm not 100%
certain, but it probably was N3755P before 41901, whatever the hell that is.
I've been wrong before on ID'ing a few aircraft, so take this with a grain of salt.
Someone please correct me, if I'm wrong here.
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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:14 am

That is not a C-130. It is a L-100, the cilivan version of the C-130. Notice no underwing fuel tanks and no lower windows in the cockpit.
 
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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:26 am



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
That is not a C-130. It is a L-100, the cilivan version of the C-130. Notice no underwing fuel tanks and no lower windows in the cockpit.

Err, aren't those underwing fuel tanks?

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc223/LifelinerOne/c130ifpnik2.jpg

However, I agree about the lower cockpit windows. FAA register shows a Piper for N41901, so 41901 is a strange number. Maybe it was painted on for a movie? Or is this a mystery CIA plane Big grin  Wink

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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:31 pm



Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 3):
However, I agree about the lower cockpit windows. FAA register shows a Piper for N41901, so 41901 is a strange number. Maybe it was painted on for a movie? Or is this a mystery CIA plane

Cheers!

The airplane is an L-100-30. Definitely has underwing tanks. The number on the tail sure looks like a military serial number. Other than that, I don't know what to tell you.
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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:13 pm



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
-100, the cilivan version of the C-130.

L382G

The L-100 is a misconception.

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/regulatory...20386256f3100721060/$FILE/A1so.pdf
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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:36 pm



Quoting Miamiair (Reply 5):
L382G

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I am tempted to say that this ex-Prescott N3755P now with ATLANTA AIR SERVICES.


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The speed this aircraft has been chaging owner during the last years, really seems to indicate that someone might not be too interested in having this airplane being IDed or tracked.
 
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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:45 pm



Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 1):
Hi Nick...
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner on this aircraft. Unfortunatly I didn't find much info.
I do know this tho...this bird is a civilian Herk, built in 1989 for World Wide Trading Inc.,
originally as N4281M, and has been re-registered many times since then. I'm not 100%
certain, but it probably was N3755P before 41901, whatever the hell that is.
I've been wrong before on ID'ing a few aircraft, so take this with a grain of salt.

No problem Tom, I appreciate all that you do.

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 6):
The speed this aircraft has been chaging owner during the last years, really seems to indicate that someone might not be too interested in having this airplane being IDed or tracked.

Yes that sure seems to be the case. Thanks all, any other opinions I would love to hear them.
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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:11 am



Quoting Miamiair (Reply 5):
L382G

The L-100 is a misconception.

To be more precise it's a 382G... drop the L.

The L-100 is not a misconception as Lockheed marketed the 382 as the L-100 and it is quite appropriate to call it as such.

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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:23 am

Thanks again guys, the 382 info is much helpful as I am uploading now with unknown.
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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:37 am

The same way they released the CIV version of the 130...I cant wait for Boeing to release the C-17 Civ version. Now THAT would be a hell of a BBJ.
 
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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:56 am

This may be of some interest...an account of the aircraft visiting Liverpool, England:


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The undoubted highlight of January was a pair of rather anonymous-looking US registered aircraft, both wearing small “Prescott” titles – a company rumoured to be associated with the CIA.

First came CASA CN235 N5025, which arrived from Gander on the 11th and night-stopped before departing to Athens the following day.

L382G Hercules N3755P arrived from Stephenville on the 12th and it also night-stopped before continuing to Athens – reportedly with 11 persons onboard.

Checking the FAA on-line database, the CASA is registered to Atlanta Air Capital Leasing LLC, while the Hercules is recorded to a similarly named company – Atlanta Air Services Leasing LLC, both of Missoula, Montana – both at the same address. The two aircraft had their own security presence and apron staff were kept away.


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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:20 am

I may be wrong, but isn't that livery the same as the old Air America "descendant", Southern Air Transport?

Can someone verify please?

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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:07 am

Was'nt one of the old CIA fronts based at Missoula Montana.
 
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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:08 pm



Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 12):
I may be wrong, but isn't that livery the same as the old Air America "descendant", Southern Air Transport?

I agree. I thought of Southern Air too the first time I saw Nick's photo of the Herk.
There's a Southern Air 747 that comes into ANC now & then with the exact same livery.



[quote=Bennett123,reply=13]Was'nt one of the old CIA fronts based at Missoula Montana

Somewhere in Montana...not certain if Missoula is the town, tho.

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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:41 am

Aside from the lack of lower cockpit windows its easy to tell its an L-100 series because of the lengthened fuselage most apparent in front of the wings.
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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:57 am



Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 15):
Aside from the lack of lower cockpit windows its easy to tell its an L-100 series because of the lengthened fuselage most apparent in front of the wings.

Actually the aircraft in question is a L-100-30. The L-100 was available in three series which varied only in fuselage length: The L-100 length of 97.8 ft (38.1m), the L-100-20 length of 106.1 ft (32.34m) and the L-100-30 length of 112.7 ft (38.1m).
 
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RE: ID Help On A C130! Help!

Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:57 pm



Quoting Fridgmus (Reply 12):
I may be wrong, but isn't that livery the same as the old Air America "descendant", Southern Air Transport?

Can someone verify please?

Ding, ding, ding...We have a winner. That looks like SAT's paint job.

I thought the same thing. Maybe it is giving the Gitmo prisoners flying lessons off the ramp; nah, we couldn't be so lucky.
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