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A Super Super Bug?

Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:22 pm

Boeing is proposing a Super Bug upgrade plus a 6th generation fighter to displace the Lockheed F-22/F-35 combination.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...3%20Super%20Hornet&channel=defense
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RE: A Super Super Bug?

Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:52 pm

An interesting way to start their collaboration with Lockheed Martin on the next bomber. I guess it would draw much from this.....

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RE: A Super Super Bug?

Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:59 pm

The entire "old" Grumman corporation rolls over in its grave. The fact that this pretender design is the "Fighter" for the Navy is still mind boggling.

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A Super Super Bug?

Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:15 am

I know GE was looking at increasing the thrust on the F414. Something they need to do before they come out with any newer versions of the "Super" Hornet.
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RE: A Super Super Bug?

Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:20 am



Quoting LMP737 (Reply 3):
Something they need to do before they come out with any newer versions of the "Super" Hornet.

The Hornet is not Super.
 
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RE: A Super Super Bug?

Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:19 pm



Quoting LMP737 (Reply 3):
I know GE was looking at increasing the thrust on the F414. Something they need to do before they come out with any newer versions of the "Super" Hornet.

I totaly agree with this. A F 22 has the same thrust at military power that a Rhino has at combat power.

Let us hope the Super Rhino will perform better than the current Rhino.

This is the Rhino that should have replaced the Tom Cat, not that thing on USN carriers now.
 
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RE: A Super Super Bug?

Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:47 am

Lightened a bit, this would be a good ANG F-15 replacement. Slap some basic thrust vectoring in, you have a good second to the F-22.
 
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RE: A Super Super Bug?

Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:23 am

The Flightblogger has some very interesting ideas.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/th...hats-a-sixthgeneration-fighte.html

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Boeing apparently thinks it can do better, says Aviation Week's David Fulghum. He reports today that Boeing is working on a sixth-generation fighter that would appear after 2024.

Ok, since you've decided to mention it, Boeing, let's think about what new features will define a sixth-generation fighter?

My proposals: optionally manned cockpit, directed-energy defenses and variable-cycle propulsion."
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RE: A Super Super Bug?

Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:53 am

Quoting Oroka (Reply 6):
Lightened a bit, this would be a good ANG F-15 replacement. Slap some basic thrust vectoring in, you have a good second to the F-22.

I agree.

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 5):
Let us hope the Super Rhino will perform better than the current Rhino.

why do they think they call it an upgrade?

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 3):
know GE was looking at increasing the thrust on the F414. Something they need to do before they come out with any newer versions of the "Super" Hornet.

its already been developed but old rumsfeld cut it out of the buget it was suppose to be started 2 years ago.

I doubt the FA_22 has anything to worry about from this, its a very superb aircraft. The F-35 could and I wouldnt complain any I am not convinced that its the aircraft the navy needs in the future. I think a newer bigger version of the F-14 would work very nicely for the navy.

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RE: A Super Super Bug?

Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:10 am



Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 7):
directed-energy defenses

Phasers set to kill>>>>>>>>>>>>  flamed 

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