HawaiianHobo
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Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Tue May 06, 2008 8:10 pm

I just got approved for cross-training to Loadmaster, and I'm really excited. I can't wait to find out what airframe I'll be working with and where I'm getting PCS'ed to. My question is, What can I expect at the tech-schools I'm going to? I know of 2 so far I'm scheduled for at Lackland, Basic Enlisted Aviator School and Basic Loadmaster (I think it said part 1)
I'm also being scheduled for survival school...2 of them I think??

Can anyone tell me what the classes will be like and perhaps some advice?


Thanks!

-J
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JohnM
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Tue May 06, 2008 8:36 pm

Congrats. Can't give any decent advice, other than a smart ass comment, and I just can't hold back.

I hear the TV dinner cooking block is a tough one. And stick to the motto, "Gear up, feet up!"

A very good job, nice move,

John
 
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Wed May 07, 2008 2:47 am

You will go through basic survival and water survival schools. When I went (with Wilber), basic Survival School was at Fairchild AFB, WA, and Water Survival School was at Homestead AFB, FL. I don't know if they are still at those bases.

Yes, you will go to Enlisted Aircrew School at Lackland AFB, TX. For a Load, the C-5 and C-17 School House is at Altus AFB, OK (a real garden spot), it is also the School House for KC-135 Boom Operators. IIRC, the C-130 School House is at Little Rock AFB, AR.

You are off onto a great adventure.

Your Loadmaster school will be the toughest. You will learn weight and balance, tie down restraint, palletised cargo, passenger handling, emergency procedures, and other things that go into flying an airplane. There will be a ground school first, then flying school, all as one course. Your training will be just for your first assigned aircraft.

Your training will be individually paced, that is how they do that now.

Your training is about 4 months long, not counting survival and Enlisted Aircrew Schools.

I was a KC-135 Boom Operator, in SAC, so I know some of what you will go through. But the two jobs differ in responsibilities. The Boom Operator is also the Loadmaster on the KC-135, but we don't carry anywhere near what loads you will carry.
 
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Wed May 07, 2008 5:43 am



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
Water Survival School was at Homestead AFB, FL. I don't know if they are still at those bases.

The USAF water survival School has been operating on Naval Air Station Pensacola since may of 1994. It was temporarily relocated to Tyndall AFB from 1992 to 1994 after Homestead AFB was shutdown due to Hurricane Andrew.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
You will learn weight and balance, tie down restraint, palletised cargo, passenger handling, emergency procedures, and other things that go into flying an airplane.

And every flight attendant's dream...How to push your passengers out the door at altitude!!!

Good Luck at Loadmaster School Hobo...Dont forget the leash and be safe!
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Thu May 08, 2008 6:00 am

Farchild also does Water Survival.

If you have any say in the matter, try to get to Fairchild for survival before 1 Oct. Less crap to carry through the woods...
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Thu May 08, 2008 11:37 pm

Congrats, are you in the Guard or active duty at Hickam, why not try to get on the C-17 and stay at Hickam.
 
HawaiianHobo
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Fri May 09, 2008 1:52 am

Thanks for the info everyone, I reeeealy can't wait! I was shooting for being a Boomer first, but this was job choice #2 so I'm still happy  Smile

Quoting RomeoKC10FE (Reply 5):
Congrats, are you in the Guard or active duty at Hickam, why not try to get on the C-17 and stay at Hickam.

Oh I'm not at Hickam, Hawaii is just my home. I actually used to be ANG at Hickam with the 154th 8 years ago, but I went active duty back in '03. I'm stationed at Travis right now with some of the very jets I might actually fly on.

I DID put Hickam on the dreamsheet (I doubt I'll get it but can't blame me for trying) and the C-17 is actually want I want to fly on, but I'm totally ready to do the C-5 thing  Smile I flew on a C-130 once to verify a fuel leak and got queezy during the flight, so I can't say I'm too fond of'em. That and I haven't seen a decent 130 base in my career yet.  Cool

-J
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Fri May 09, 2008 3:15 pm



Quoting HawaiianHobo (Reply 6):
I'm stationed at Travis right now with some of the very jets I might actually fly on.

Hey I'm at Travis AFB also, I'm a KC-10 Flight Engineer, I used to be ANG also, I was in Memphis and flew on the C-141B/C. Like yourself I came back on active duty in late 2003 (after being furloughed from the airlines after 9/11) and got the KC-10 at Travis. I'm now happily back in the reserves at Travis and back with the airlines flying the B747.
 
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Fri May 09, 2008 11:33 pm



Quoting RomeoKC10FE (Reply 7):
I was in Memphis and flew on the C-141B/C.

Man, those Memphis ANG guys are some of the coolest cats to work with...next to our Hawaii ANG guys of course  Wink We had them come in all the time in Spain and Memphis and the Stewart ANG guys were by far some of the best people (aircrew wise) I've ever dealt with. Westover on the other hand...

BTW, whats the deal with our KC-10's lately? It seems like they've been acting up more this last year more than any other time ever. Ever since we got rid of C-5 ISO, the 10's started becoming a pain in the ass...its even got the Boeing tech reps baffled. :-/
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Sat May 10, 2008 7:12 pm

Airtran737 is a certified LoadMaster. You should message him for information. The LoadMaster Program at FX is pretty nice. Good money and always in a different country. Good luck with training, let us know how it goes.
 
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Sun May 11, 2008 12:47 am



Quoting FXramper (Reply 9):
Airtran737 is a certified LoadMaster. You should message him for information.

There are quite a few of us on here who are Loadmasters. We do civilian as well as military cargo, in addition to passenger flights as well. It's a sweet job, and you get to ride up front. I got another great video not to long ago. I will be uploading it soon.
Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
 
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Tue May 13, 2008 4:56 pm



Quoting HawaiianHobo (Thread starter):
Can anyone tell me what the classes will be like and perhaps some advice?

Get ready to learn a lot about HAZMAT, proper loading techniques, weight distribution, cargo configuration, weight & balance, and a lot of other things. The military brings anything and everything on the cargo birds. Make sure you chain that M1A1 to the floor properly. You don't want her slamming through the back door causing the nose to rapidly pitch up. Enjoy the training.
Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
 
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Wed May 14, 2008 8:54 pm



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):


Your Loadmaster school will be the toughest. You will learn weight and balance, tie down restraint, palletised cargo, passenger handling, emergency procedures, and other things that go into flying an airplane. There will be a ground school first, then flying school, all as one course. Your training will be just for your first assigned aircraft.

Is it harder then loadmaster school for civilians (not talking about survival) ?
 
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RE: Just Got Accepted For Loadmaster, Now What?

Wed May 14, 2008 10:00 pm



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 12):
Is it harder then loadmaster school for civilians (not talking about survival) ?

As civi loadmasters we don't have to deal with mid-air drops, as well as paratroopers. Plus we don't have to go get waterboarded at SERE School.
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