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What Is The Second Oldest Active Military Aircraft

Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:40 pm

In 2005 there was a topic on the oldest military aircraft currently in active service with any air force worldwide. The unanimous decision was that it was the C-47 by a long way.

Three years later alot of old aircraft have been retired around the world, however the C-47 soldiers on.

My question is what is next on the list. What is the second oldest type of military aircraft that is still in active service with any worldwide air force. I don't think there are any other WWII era aircraft left (except for historic units like BBMF). I'm not looking for longevity in one air force. I am looking for longevity from prototype first flight to continued operation of any variant worldwide.

My guess is that it would be an early postwar design like T-33, T-34, Canberra or MiG-15.

What are your nominations for the longevity silver medal??
 
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RE: What Is The Second Oldest Active Military Aircraft

Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:19 am

As far as I know there is still a JUNKERS JU52 flyable with the Swiss air-forces (which operated a number of them till the mid 80's).

I think it is stationed at Dübendorf Air Base (near Zurich) IIRC.

The JU52 first flew in 1932 making it about 76yrs old now.
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RE: What Is The Second Oldest Active Military Aircraft

Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:29 am

Interesting question.

Quoting ArniePie (Reply 1):
As far as I know there is still a JUNKERS JU52 flyable with the Swiss air-forces

That's not an operational military aircraft.

If no T-6 Texan (the real one) survives in military service, then my candidate is the Bell 47 which first flew on December 8, 1945.

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Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:28 am



Quoting ACW367 (Thread starter):
My guess is that it would be an early postwar design like T-33, T-34, Canberra or MiG-15.

As far as I can determine, there are no T-33's left flying in military service. Canada retired their last T-bird in 2005.
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RE: What Is The Second Oldest Active Military Aircraft

Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:36 am

The Mexican Air Force still flies the PT-17, which first flew in 1936.

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Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:31 am



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 4):
The Mexican Air Force still flies the PT-17, which first flew in 1936.

Cool.

Quoting MissedApproach (Reply 3):
As far as I can determine, there are no T-33's left flying in military service.

Yes there are, with the Bolivian Air Force.

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Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:43 am

What about the An-2? From 1947 till the present day (there's still a number of worldwide air forces that operate them in active service).
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Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:40 am

And while certainly nowhere as old, the F-4 Phantom, B-52 and KC - 135 still are used for frontline military missions, all being from the 1950s, as well.
 
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Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:25 pm

The RAF still regularly flies an early Spitfire, a Battle of Britain veteran:


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Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:32 pm

I think the Mexican PT-17 is more for leisure now and not in active service as a trainer. As stated at the top, Spitfires and Tante Ju are disallowed as being in historic flights. I like the Bell 47 though.

I believe Yemen still use Yak-11, first flight 10 Nov 45 just beating the Bell.

Can anyone find Air Forces that still use T-6 Texans,, Beech 18, Piper Cubs or Aeroncas????
 
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Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:49 pm

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 5):
Yes there are, with the Bolivian Air Force.
Thanks, I admit I only made a cursory search for other T-bird users. Good to know they're not all museum pieces!

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Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:01 pm

QinetiQ still use a T-6 at Boscombe Down. That's a military aircraft, in my book.
 
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Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:07 am



Quoting ACW367 (Reply 9):
Can anyone find Air Forces that still use T-6 Texans,, Beech 18, Piper Cubs

Uruguay flies the PA-18, which first flew in 1949.

DHC-2 Beavers are still in service. Those first flew in 1947.

Several air forces fly the Beechcraft Bonanza, which first flew in December of 1945.

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RE: What Is The Second Oldest Active Military Aircraft

Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:32 am

Are some AF's still fly C-47's (DC-3's).
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Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:36 pm



Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 13):
Are some AF's still fly C-47's (DC-3's).

Many air forces operate Turbo Daks (BT67). I think El Salvador and some African nations still use originals.
 
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