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Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sun May 24, 2009 6:57 pm

With Atlantis down today it's time for the STS-127 thread..

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Launch Target: 7:17 a.m. EDT – June 13, 2009
Orbiter: Endeavour
Mission Number: STS-127 (127th space shuttle flight)
Launch Window: 10 minutes
Launch Pad:39A
Mission Duration:16 days
Landing Site:KSC
Inclination/Altitude:51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles
Primary Payload: 29th station flight (2J/A), Kibo Japanese Experiment Module Exposed Facility (JEM EF), Kibo Japanese Experiment Logistics Module - Exposed Section (ELM-ES)

Mark L. Polansky will command the shuttle Endeavour for STS-127. Douglas G. Hurley will serve as the pilot. Mission specialists are Christopher J. Cassidy, Thomas H. Marshburn, David A. Wolf and Julie Payette, a Canadian Space Agency astronaut.

The mission will deliver Timothy L. Kopra to the station as a flight engineer and science officer and return Japanese astronaut Koichi Wakata to Earth. Hurley, Cassidy, Marshburn and Kopra will be making their first trips to space.

Endeavour sets sail on its 23rd mission with the Kibo Japanese Experiment Module Exposed Facility and Experiment Logistics Module Exposed Section. The facility will provide a type of "front porch" for experiments in the exposed environment, and a robotic arm that will be attached to the Kibo Pressurized Module and used to position experiments outside the station. The mission will include five spacewalks.

STS-127 is the 29th shuttle mission to the International Space Station.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sun May 24, 2009 7:07 pm

Per the Atlantis post landing press conference today Endeavour should be rolling around from pad B to pad A at 0001L Saturday morning.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Mon May 25, 2009 9:39 am

This will be a very proud moment for Canadians, as with Julie Payette on the Endeavour crew, and Robert Thirsk already aboard ISS as part of the Soyuz TMA-19 crew, there will be two Canucks in space for the first time. Thirsk will remain on ISS until November, per the current plan.

I believe Julie & Bob are the last Canadians currently slated for missions. Looking ahead I believe we'll have to negotiate with the Russians if we want further access to ISS.

Actually met Bob a long time ago in the initial 1983 selection process. Nice fellow.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Mon May 25, 2009 12:56 pm



Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 2):
I believe Julie & Bob are the last Canadians currently slated for missions

/heart skips a beat just hearing Payettes name mode on

This male had a very difficult time paying attention to what was going on everytime Payette served as Capcom during a mission....

/beat skipping mode off

Hopefully the Canucks find another ride without having to trade their share of the Artic regions for it.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Thu May 28, 2009 9:40 pm



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 1):
Per the Atlantis post landing press conference today Endeavour should be rolling around from pad B to pad A at 0001L Saturday morning.

Roll around delayed 24 hours due to "recent weather delays"....

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Space shuttle Endeavour now is planned to be moved from Launch Pad 39B to 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida at 12:01 a.m. EDT on Sunday, May 31, weather permitting. Endeavour is targeted to lift off June 13 on a 16-day mission to the International Space Station.

The STS-127 crew's launch dress rehearsal, known as the Terminal Countdown Demonstration Test, has changed from June 2 to June 4 at Kennedy. The delay will allow engineers and technicians to rearrange remaining processing work because of recent weather delays.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Fri May 29, 2009 5:01 am

I REALLY hope this one goes off on time. I'm moving back up to NYC in June, and I'm making a special point of staying until the 13th so I can see what might well be my last launch in person.

*fingers crossed*

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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Fri May 29, 2009 2:51 pm



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 3):
/heart skips a beat just hearing Payettes name mode on

This male had a very difficult time paying attention to what was going on everytime Payette served as Capcom during a mission....

/beat skipping mode off

Hopefully the Canucks find another ride without having to trade their share of the Artic regions for it.

Julie does it for me as well ! Something about that voice.
Look forward to it in June,

As for the future, I don't know if/what CSA is doing regarding access to ISS. I have read that NASA has paid about $300M for four rides in the 2011-2015 period.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thr

Sat May 30, 2009 12:19 am



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 3):
/heart skips a beat just hearing Payettes name mode on

lol, I met Julie a few times, last time was in CFB Cold Lake in 99 I think (omg it has been 10 years!). I didnt quite have the same reaction as you, but she is a very nice lady.
 
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat May 30, 2009 1:33 pm

How long since two shuttle launches were so close together (1 month)? I know that in the beginning of the program, they could come pretty close together, even with the same orbiter at times, but since Challenger and Columbia especially, they've sort of spaced out a lot, I suppose also largely due to budget cuts.

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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:46 am

Here's the STS-127 press kit. Lots of good info here:

http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/358018main_sts127_press_kit.pdf

Hopefully at this time next week we will be watching a successful launch!!
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:39 am

Does anyone know the best vantage point to see the shuttle launch in Titusville or anywhere else on the Space Coast for that matter? Watching a shuttle launch has always been on my list of things to do.
 
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:19 pm

20 hours left. Lets see if it will go as planned...
 
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:03 pm

4AM, sucks for us PST folk! Speaking of which, is this considered a night or day launch?
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:12 am



Quoting Dahawaiian (Reply 10):
Does anyone know the best vantage point to see the shuttle launch in Titusville or anywhere else on the Space Coast for that matter? Watching a shuttle launch has always been on my list of things to do.

Just take the 406 (from the north) or SR50 (from the south) to US1, and turn right from 406 onto US1 or left from SR50 onto US1 and go until your across from the VAB. I part at the Miracle City Mall, or the bank immediately south of it, and walk across the US1 to the big feild just across from it. You can see it on a map, where Harrison Street ends there's a big field next to a tall condo, walk thru the field to the river lots of people hanging out watching the launch.

MapQuest 2500 South Washington Ave., that's the Malls address, and go across the street to the river.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:00 am

Launch scrubbed!! Trouble with the GUCP again. Leak was way out of spec. Next launch attempt no earlier than 17 June.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:29 am



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 14):
Launch scrubbed!!

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Oh well. They gotta do what they gotta do.

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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:58 am

Better scrup than too much go-fever... The timeline is not under pressure at the moment.
 
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:22 pm



Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 16):
Better scrup than too much go-fever...

No argument from me there - I'm just disappointed I won't be able to see it.

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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:35 pm

Gotta wonder if all the moving around and connecting/disconnecting lines for the LON mission
might have cause a problem. Then again, they never were 100% sure of the cause of the leak on STS-119.
They're talking about a conflict 6/17 to 6/20 with LRO/LCross, but it's hard to see them delaying an ISS assembly mission for one that could launch two weeks later without screwing up the schedule.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:52 pm

Per todays MMT launch now scheduled for 17 June 0540L EDT.
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:03 am



Quoting Nomadd22 (Reply 18):
it's hard to see them delaying an ISS assembly mission for one that could launch two weeks later without screwing up the schedule.

I thought that there were a number of payloads waiting for LRO/LCROSS to get going so they could use the pad.

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Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:32 am



Quoting Mir (Reply 20):
I thought that there were a number of payloads waiting for LRO/LCROSS to get going so they could use the pad.

If shuttle gets off on the 17th their are LRO launch opportunities on the 19th and 20th. If the shuttles GUCP problem recurs at the same point in the count that it happened yesterday, and the launch is scrubbed again, there is sufficient to time to reconfigure the range for an additional LRO opportunity on the 18th.

So one opportunity for shuttle on the 17th, 2 for LRO on the 19th & 20th and possibly a third on the 18th.

This per todays STS-127 MMT...
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:20 am

They're trying the same thing they did with STS-119 when it had the leak, disconnect and reconnect with a new seal and hope that fixes it. If that doesn't work there's not much chance they'd retry by the 20th anyway. If there's a one day type delay for some other reason, they'll have to decide what to bump.
Moving the whole remaining shuttle schedule to the right a month would cost somebody a few hundred million dollars, so I think it will have priority in any range conflict.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:57 pm



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 21):
here is sufficient to time to reconfigure the range for an additional LRO opportunity on the 18th.

What exactly is involved in reconfiguring the range?

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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:47 pm



Quoting Mir (Reply 23):
What exactly is involved in reconfiguring the range?

According to Jim
"reconfiguring comm line patches, software changes, road blocks, security, etc.
The range is basically manned for 8/5. There isn't a second and 3rd shift to do the work. So overtime and shifting is used. "
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:34 pm



Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 13):
Just take the 406 (from the north) or SR50 (from the south) to US1, and turn right from 406 onto US1 or left from SR50 onto US1 and go until your across from the VAB. I part at the Miracle City Mall, or the bank immediately south of it, and walk across the US1 to the big feild just across from it. You can see it on a map, where Harrison Street ends there's a big field next to a tall condo, walk thru the field to the river lots of people hanging out watching the launch.

MapQuest 2500 South Washington Ave., that's the Malls address, and go across the street to the river.

Thanks for the tip. I will try to make it out there from Orlando for this and/or the next shuttle launch.
 
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:07 am

Tanking delayed due to KSC weather. Thunderstorms to the west.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:11 am

Heavy T-Storm activity in the Orlando area at the moment.
 
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:37 am



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 26):
Tanking delayed due to KSC weather. Thunderstorms to the west.

How long can they wait? I'd imagine that if the storms linger too long, they're going to run long in the countdown, and they'll miss the launch window.

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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:05 am

The launch today was just scrubbed by NASA as of 0200 EDT. Still leaking.

Looks like July lift- off.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:11 am

Scrubbed again! Apparently the same problem occurred during fueling process. Does anyone know the record for scrubbed launches for a single shuttle mission?
 
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:08 pm

They would have bumped the LRO for weather or something minor, but since they don't have a handle on the root cause of this leak, they're going to need some time.
Those seals are very inflexible and it doesn't take much to distort one. They have to be rated for liquid H2 contact even though it's a gas line and nothing but the teflon seals can handle that, so it's not practical to change them to something more forgiving.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:48 pm



Quoting Dahawaiian (Reply 30):
Apparently the same problem occurred during fueling process.

Not exactly the same problem, though. There were some differences between this attempt and the last one. But still not fixed. They'll have to go back and look at the data they got while they wait out the beta cutout.

Which leads me to my next question: I've been reading about beta cutout and why it happens, but it's really hard for me to wrap my head around the different angles involved, and sometimes a picture is worth 1,000 words. So is there a picture or diagram that shows the orbit in relation to the sun and why there's no attitude that can keep the shuttle and station cool enough? Google hasn't been much help there.

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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:05 am

Seeing as the launch window doesnt open again for over 3 weeks, will they pull Endeavour off the launch pad for repairs? Just how long can the orbiter stay on the pad, exposed?
 
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:20 am



Quoting Legs (Reply 33):
Seeing as the launch window doesnt open again for over 3 weeks, will they pull Endeavour off the launch pad for repairs? Just how long can the orbiter stay on the pad, exposed?

It is not exposed. The orbiter is reasonably well covered with the RSS structure that will rotate into place to cover it. The ET and SRB are exposed however 3 weeks + is acceptable.

It will most likely stay at the pad. Rollback is an expensive proposition and there are other hidden cost and liabilities involved. A scrub + rollback = $2 million in direct costs. The vent valve and seals in question can be changed out at the pad hence a rollback is not warranted.
If a hurricane starts developing, it will rollback though.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:07 pm



Quoting Legs (Reply 33):
Just how long can the orbiter stay on the pad, exposed?

A view of the RSS that encloses the orbiter and protects is from the elements. Here, it is in the "open" position prior to launch. The ET and SRBs are exposed.


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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:27 pm

Latest from NASA:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

Fair use excerpt:

Space Shuttle Program Manager John Shannon (...) says a plate that attaches the vent line to Endeavour's external fuel tank is slightly misaligned and that's allowing a small leak to happen during the fueling process.

(...) Shannon also says technicians are preparing to test the repair plan by filling Endeavour's external tank with liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen in the next week and a half, just as they would for a launch.

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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:44 am

Hopefully they'll make that 7-11 date. Apparently there are some batteries in the payload that are life limited. If they don't get off by the 17th they might have to open it up to replace them.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:07 pm

Endervour's ET has passed the fueling test. Looks like the changes to compensate for the misaligned plate and the double seal did the trick. July 11 looks good.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:06 am



Quoting Nomadd22 (Reply 38):
Endervour's ET has passed the fueling test. Looks like the changes to compensate for the misaligned plate and the double seal did the trick. July 11 looks good.

Launch is on for 0739PM EDT on Saturday. Launch countdown operations started last night.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:54 am

Time to sacrafice the chicken to the weather gods.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:40 pm

Looks like I'll miss the launch by 4 hours. I can see night launches here in FLL but I think SJU is asking a bit much.....Stupid Vacation!!!
 
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:41 pm

Wx for todays launch:

20% chance of violating tanking criteria
60% chance of violating launch criteria

Primary concerns: Thunderstorms within 20 miles of the pad and anvils.
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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:42 pm

Tanking and launch delayed 24 hours to evaluate lightning strikes near the pad.
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Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:44 pm

Tanking and launch delayed 24 hours. Teams need to evaluate lightning strikes damage.

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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:12 pm



Quoting Nomadd22 (Reply 40):
Time to sacrafice the chicken to the weather gods.

Should have sacrificed two chickens.  Sad

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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:22 pm

That sucks, have friends down from Philadelphia have to leave tonight but were gonna catch the launch first... they won't be able to see it tomorrow. Damn.
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Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:05 pm

Strike to FSS Mast...

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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:59 pm



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 47):
Strike to FSS Mast...

That's what it's for, isn't it?

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RE: Official STS-127 Endeavour Shuttle Mission Thread

Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:32 pm

All systems cleared of lightning damage.
Go for tanking starting in about 20 minutes..
5% chance of wx violating tanking criteria.
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