Max Q
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USN Aircraft Carrier With Island On The Left?

Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:34 am

Watching the Military Channel the other night I noticed a WW2 or post war Carrier with the Island on the left (port side) of the ship.


Never seen this before and replayed the scene, sure enough, Island on the left.


Any idea what ship this was, reasons for the placement, etc.. ?
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RE: USN Aircraft Carrier With Island On The Left?

Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:53 am

My understanding is the Japanase Akagi and Hiryū were the only two carriers built with port side islands.

The logic apparently was that they operated in formation with conventional(starboard island) carriers but the practise did not match the theory and they were the only two examples built.

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RE: USN Aircraft Carrier With Island On The Left?

Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:40 am



Quoting Max Q (Thread starter):
Watching the Military Channel the other night I noticed a WW2 or post war Carrier with the Island on the left (port side) of the ship

Are you sure the film clip wasn't backwards? Sometimes the editors will do that accidently or if they need to reuse the same clip, makes it look different
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RE: USN Aircraft Carrier With Island On The Left?

Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:06 pm



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 2):
Are you sure the film clip wasn't backwards? Sometimes the editors will do that accidently or if they need to reuse the same clip, makes it look different

I had never heard of that practice before, though it certainly makes sense. I have seen photos printed in books that way, and unless you look close you don't realize it ... until you see, for example, the tail code on an F-105 and it looks like it was painted on in mirror fashion.
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RE: USN Aircraft Carrier With Island On The Left?

Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:13 pm



Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 3):
I had never heard of that practice before, though it certainly makes sense.

Usually a trick reserved for the cheaper productions....
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RE: USN Aircraft Carrier With Island On The Left?

Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:23 pm

What are the main advantages of having the island on the right? Is it just a manner of tradition that has grown into a hard to break habit, or is there something more behind it?
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RE: USN Aircraft Carrier With Island On The Left?

Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:22 pm



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 1):
My understanding is the Japanase Akagi and Hiryū were the only two carriers built with port side islands.

This is true. Back in thirties the Japanese conducted a study that suggested placing the island on the port side away from the ships exhaust would reduce turbulence aft of the flight deck. It turned out to make it a bit worse.
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RE: USN Aircraft Carrier With Island On The Left?

Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:43 pm



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 2):

Are you sure the film clip wasn't backwards? Sometimes the editors will do that accidently or if they need to reuse the same clip, makes it look different

You could be right, it certainly surprised me.


So, as far as anyone knows there were no USN Carriers with Island's on the left ?
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RE: USN Aircraft Carrier With Island On The Left?

Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:03 am



Quoting Max Q (Reply 7):

So, as far as anyone knows there were no USN Carriers with Island's on the left ?

Correct. While Langley (CV-1) did not have an island as she was originally completed, by the time World War II rolled around, she had been converted to a seaplane tender and redesignated AV-3. Similarly, when Ranger (CV-4) was originally designed, she was to be a flush-deck carrier, but an island was added during the construction phase on the starboard side. Similarly the post-War USS United States (CVA-58) was to be flush-decked, but as we all know, United States never made it to commissioning. As StealthZ stated, and to the best of my knowledge, the only two aircraft carriers actually completed with port-side islands were Akagi and Hiryu
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