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Saudi Typhoons

Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:47 am

From what I can gather, looking at the photos here at a.net, the Saudi Air Force has taken delivery of 4 single seat Eurofighter Typhoons. I understand they're getting 72 Typhoons, but are they getting some two-seaters among them?
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RE: Saudi Typhoons

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RE: Saudi Typhoons

Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:17 pm

I'm surprised they didn't get at least two of the two-seaters first. Presumably they'll use their two-seaters to train pilots who follow the first group who trained in Europe.
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RE: Saudi Typhoons

Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:44 pm



Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 2):
Presumably they'll use their two-seaters to train pilots who follow the first group who trained in Europe.

Isn't the initial cardray of RSAF pilots being trained by the RAF?
 
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RE: Saudi Typhoons

Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:02 am



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):

Isn't the initial cardray of RSAF pilots being trained by the RAF?

No condescension meant here but the word is 'Cadre'
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RE: Saudi Typhoons

Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:21 am



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 2):
Presumably they'll use their two-seaters to train pilots who follow the first group who trained in Europe.

Isn't the initial cardray of RSAF pilots being trained by the RAF?

That was what I was implying when I mentioned the first group who trained in Europe. I presume the RAF is training the first group so that the airplanes can go operational as soon as possible. I further assume the Saudi AF will form a transition training unit utilizing their own two-seaters in the not too distant future. I'm just surprised the two-seaters haven't started being delivered yet.
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RE: Saudi Typhoons

Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:56 am

The Saudis are VERY keen for their people to undergo the full RAF Typhoon training and to follow RAF operating procedures and CONOPS.

This is especially true for the first unit, which will be the RSAF's equivalent to No.17 Squadron, with an OEU function.

Putting their people through 29 (R) is not a 'second best' option for the RSAF, and though they have an aspiration to get an autonomous training capability, for the time being, following a more 'Austrian' model is fine, and it will allow a more rapid build up of the first squadron.
 
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RE: Saudi Typhoons

Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:56 pm



Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 5):
I presume the RAF is training the first group so that the airplanes can go operational as soon as possible. I further assume the Saudi AF will form a transition training unit utilizing their own two-seaters in the not too distant future. I'm just surprised the two-seaters haven't started being delivered yet.

Then taking the 4 single seat Typhoons first makes sense. IIRC, that is what the RSAF did with their F-15s. They took delivery of some F-15Cs while getting training from the USAF, and later got their two seat F-15Ds.

Quoting Jackonicko (Reply 6):
Putting their people through 29 (R) is not a 'second best' option for the RSAF, and though they have an aspiration to get an autonomous training capability, for the time being, following a more 'Austrian' model is fine, and it will allow a more rapid build up of the first squadron.

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