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RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:15 pm

The Tornado F.3's of 1435 RAF, which provides air policing and a basic airborne military presence over the Falkland Islands, have been replaced by Typhoons.

http://www.fast-air.co.uk/RAF-Coning...-Falklands-Typhoon-Flight-1435.htm

Though the military threat is very low, aside from the presence/policing role, it must provide some excellent flying/training opportunities with the airspace being virtually empty by European and US standards.

A history of 1435 Flight RAF;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._1435_Flight_RAF

A video of the aircraft being replaced from a few years ago;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=QI-U3-9UO0w

[Edited 2009-09-19 11:16:42]
 
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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:59 pm

Personally, I hope the airplanes get some kind of distinctive markings; the article indicated that it's not yet known if markinings will be applied or the airplanes will remain plain jane.
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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:54 pm

Excellent video, GDB. Thanks for posting. Scrolling down through the comments, some of the posters on YouTube are more ignorant than many here.
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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:19 am

What a fantastic video. The Falklands look remarkably similar to the Islands up here in the North Atlantic (the Faroes, Shetland, Orkney and Outer Hebrides).
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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:46 am

Did you spot what the crew of the C-130 were doing about two and a half mins in?

A Maltese Cross (part of 1435 Flights history and heritage, was on one Typhoon, them removed. But perhaps once settled in the islands it or something else might be applied.
I doubt any Foreign Office type can see for 8000 miles.
 
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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:25 am



Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
Did you spot what the crew of the C-130 were doing about two and a half mins in?

I caught that one! That was pretty darn funny. The video reminded me of a video I seen of some french jets doing some crazy low level flying (like near eye level with a truck on a road). Very well done video. I guess when you are so far away from the brass, you can play a bit!
 
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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:56 am

I remember an F3 pilot talking to a group of us about being stationed down at Mount Pleasant, his words were to something to the effect of "2000 troops are stuck for 6 months in the middle of nowhere, 8000 miles from home, with a regular supply of booze - it makes for one hell of a party!"

Does anyone know what route the Typhoons and Tornados take getting to and from there? Via Ascension and Gibraltar at least I assume (which would still need some aerial refueling)? Also, how often are the individual aircraft typically rotated back to the UK?
 
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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:33 pm

Didn't think there were 2000 troops there even, the MoD list the army deployment as a 'reinforced infantry company', though if you factor in support personnel, the locally raised defence force, the local patrol vessels along with the RN's Arctic Patrol Ship and the crew of whatever RN Frigate or Destroyer is the Guardship, it could well be that number.

The Typhoons tanked down, a VC-10 is also stationed on the Islands, but when the RAF got C-17's, on at least one occasion one Tornado F.3 went down in the cargo hold, after the swinging portion of the wings were removed.
Cannot do that with a Typhoon!

The F-4M's were not returned to the UK, one is a station gate guard, the others I understand were broken up there,
The F.3's probably will be returned, since though the fleet is phasing out, some will be active for a couple of years yet, unlike the Phantoms in 1992.

No idea on rotations, as and when any technical needs arise I guess.
 
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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:07 am



Quoting GDB (Reply 7):
Didn't think there were 2000 troops there even

I don't know if I am recalling the actual number he said - may well be less than that, but you get the idea.

I didn't realize they left the Phantoms down there, you'd think they could have at least stuck them on a container ship. I suppose there could well be a very reputable scrap merchant in Stanley for all I know!

If that was the case for the Phantoms then unless the 1435 F.3 airframes have a comparably low number of flying hours, it's perhaps equally conceivable that they won't rotate them back into a mainland UK squadron. The RAF must have a good stock of surplus airframes and parts to pick from with the disbanded Leeming squadrons.
 
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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:18 pm

We'll have to see Spectre, the F.3's might come back in the holds of C-17's.

That fleet will be active in some form or other for a couple of years yet, whereas the F-4 phase out was very rapid.

It would be interesting to find out the flying hours of 1435 flight frames, but I bet they pull more G's more often that UK based units.
 
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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:28 pm

Great video, spent 4 months down at Mount Alice in 96, will have to play the vid eo back slower as they overflow at least one remote radar site, looked like Byron Heights and possibly Mount Kent. It does look a bit like the Shetlands, should know, spent 3 years at Saxa Vord and time in the Orkneys and Outer Hebrides. The F3s brought back memories too, saw some spectacular very fast and low fly pasts (measles). Even an Eric but no Tommys or Timmys just a 747. and no Wokkas.
 
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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:06 pm

Hi

Quote:

“The serials of the four Typhoons FGR.4 for 1435 Flight at RAF Mount Pleasant, in the Falkland Islands, are ZJ949, ZJ950, ZK300 and ZK301.
They are going to leave in October, but this could be brought forward due to the rapid retirement of the Tornado F3.


“Typhoons Getting Ready to Head Down South” News UK, AirForces Monthly October 2009, page 7



Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
A Maltese Cross (part of 1435 Flights history and heritage, was on one Typhoon, them removed. But perhaps once settled in the islands it or something else might be applied.
I doubt any Foreign Office type can see for 8000 miles.

On the article there's a photo of one Typhoon with the Maltese Cross on the tail.

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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:26 pm

A shame to see the F3s go. I remember being wakened in the wee small hours at MPA by either "Faith", "Hope", "Charity" or "Desperation" deploying on an Alpha Scramble. Great aircraft being replaced by an even greater one.
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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:45 am

Hi

The Typhoon FGR4s departed from RAF Coningsby to the Falkland Islands on September 12.
Two fo them had the PIRATE sensor removed.

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RE: RAF Typhoons Deploy Down South

Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:36 am

Hi,

If the need arises, how many additional Typhoons can Mount Pleasant receive?

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