spudh
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Irish Air Corp Trainer Down

Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:03 am

An Irish Air Corp Pilatus PC-9 trainer went down in the last 24hrs with the loss of pilot and trainee.


Ár ndeis dé ar a hanam

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1013/cornamona.html

[Edited 2009-10-13 01:18:40 by spudh]
 
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RE: Irish Air Corp Trainer Down

Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:06 pm

I don't mean to be flippant, but what does Ireland need an Air Force for?
When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' -Theodore Roosevelt
 
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RE: Irish Air Corp Trainer Down

Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:01 pm

RIP, my friends.

Quoting N328KF (Reply 1):
I don't mean to be flippant, but what does Ireland need an Air Force for?

It appears the Irish Air Force has no strike capable aircraft, accept limited capability on the PC-9s. Their functions seem to be focused on air/sea rescue and transport services.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_air_force
 
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RE: Irish Air Corp Trainer Down

Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:44 pm

Though their learjet is rigged with missiles when they want it to be, dont have more specifics though.
 
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RE: Irish Air Corp Trainer Down

Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:09 pm



Quoting N328KF (Reply 1):

I don't mean to be flippant, but what does Ireland need an Air Force for?

Ha Ha, you wouldn't be the first to question that!!

Its often been said that it appears our Air Corp's primary mission is training pilots for Aer Lingus and Ryanair.

But thats unfair. We have incredibly variable weather conditions which can change from clear blue sky to pea soup fog in a matter of miles or minutes. Scotalnd is very similar which is one reason the RAF train so much up there. With weather conditions like that our pilots, particularily the AW139 guys have to be trained to a high standard.

Search & rescue/air ambulance is a big issue for Ireland as is maritime patrol. Our police helicopters are operated and flown by Air Corp pilots. After that our helicopters and government jet seem to spend their time ferrying around politicians.

Quoting GST (Reply 3):
Though their learjet is rigged with missiles when they want it to be, dont have more specifics though.

The only missiles its capable of firing would be whatever the pilot can throw out the window or hot air the VIP politician in back can expel.
 
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RE: Irish Air Corp Trainer Down

Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:36 pm



Quoting Spudh (Reply 4):

The only missiles its capable of firing would be whatever the pilot can throw out the window or hot air the VIP politician in back can expel.

You are correct of course, on researching it I learned to take my housemate's patriotic boasts with a larger pinch of salt in future.
 
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RE: Irish Air Corp Trainer Down

Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:09 pm



Quoting N328KF (Reply 1):
I don't mean to be flippant, but what does Ireland need an Air Force for?

You could ask this question nowadays about the air arms of all countries which don't face any clearly identifiable external or internal threat. However when you have a military force in being, it is highly unlikely, I think, that a Government would propose its complete disbandment. I can only think of handful of countries which do not maintain military forces of some sort.

As mentioned, the Irish Air Corps operates in support of the army and police, and on fisheries patrol/SAR and air ambulance work as well as the transport of senior State personnel such as the President, Taoiseach (Prime Minister) and other Government Ministers. It is a well-trained and professional organisation and has a very modern fleet of aircraft, following a lot of re-equipping over the last decade.

This is the PC-9 lost in last week's accident, seen in May 2009:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2410141...11592503/in/set-72157614622881904/

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