Greetings! Would enjoy talking with anyone who flew with SAMS. Someone should be
Leslie "Herman the German"
|Quoting Samsrheinmain (Reply 2):|
never knew of any engineer having communications
|Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 3):|
we were the last enlisted men allowed to taxi their acft for mx runs and to position them for DV uploads
|Quoting DonnieCS (Reply 4):|
The Army like the other U.S. services operating Gulfstreams, we had 3 in the cockpit. I was referring the additional communications equipment onboard for DV support. Unlike the U.S. Air Force, we carried no CSO but had 2 flight attendants on board. It was the job of the FE to operate the cabin communications a lot of the time (or at least train and monitor the DVs accompanying communications support person). There is a push across the services to standardize the communications equipment for the passengers. The Air Force seems to have some overly complex but less capable systems and the Army seemed to get the most positive feed back from customers but the Air Force is resistant to adopt somebody else's system even though we all fly the same passengers and hence the same requirements for communications. Not trying to start an Air Force verse Army deal. Since Gulfstreams are a niche deal for the Army we did have a lot more money to spend per aircraft.
|Quoting Samsrheinmain (Reply 6):|
Hello 6971! We did have a crew chief that was positioned between the pilot and co pilot.
However, the crew chief HAD NOTHING to do with us. His job was the mechanic of the AC and reported to the pilot. On our flights the one with most training (I got mine with TWA) was in
charge of the cabin. I can also tell you that even thought we at the time were USAF we did
not use the AF uniform at anytime. We had very nice black trousers/tie with white jacket and gold buttons. Local ground crew took care of our catering and cleaning needs. All that was done before leaving home port. Anything we ran out of was done by radio before arrival at next port.
It seemed that when we arrived at non military airports (which was often) we ourselves got the best of service.
That "Duck" with top hat, white gloves and stick on the tail of the AC said everything. Yes, we carried a red carpet and made us very proud of the AF and OUR country.
Thanking you in advance for your time and interest in the above.
PS: Most times our pilot was a L/COL with Maj. and sometime Capt. for co-pilot. Our flights, service and visits...all first class.
|Quoting Samsrheinmain (Reply 8):|
Hello 6971! We often traveled with two crew chiefs and sometimes with double crew.
I feel we were very lucky in the 60's as we had it all and also most appreciated. Our Christmas tours always enjoyable and long after my AF time was over, I had received many beautiful letters and cards. I do feel even today that if you truly are happy in what your doing, it will show. For me, all has gone well and a life that has been blessed many times over. I am now retired and live in Canada because of my business. I am MOST proud to be American and for what America stands for.
Have yourself a great day and good hearing from you.