edina
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MoD Ascension Island/Falklands Flights

Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:56 am

Anyone know who is operating these now that GSM is no more?
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RE: MoD Ascension Island/Falklands Flights

Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:06 pm

Air Italy did some of the first flights immediately post-GSM (I-AIGH B762 was used).
I'm not sure if they have continued or whether someone else has now taken over.
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RE: MoD Ascension Island/Falklands Flights

Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:19 pm

How likely is it that the RAF would resume some of this flying themselves with the VC-10s and Tristars? On an emergency basis, obviously -- I'm sure it has to be more cost-effective to charter the flying most of the time.
 
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RE: MoD Ascension Island/Falklands Flights

Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:25 pm



Quoting VC10DC10 (Reply 2):
How likely is it that the RAF would resume some of this flying themselves with the VC-10s and Tristars?

Unlikely that they will use the pax Tristars as they are basically dedicated to the Khandahar run. Finding replacement capacity at short notice in the middle of the winter shouldn't be a problem as there ought to be plenty of spare charter capacity around until about Easter.
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RE: MoD Ascension Island/Falklands Flights

Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:45 pm

How many flights a week are we talking about? Are civilians allowed to book as well?
Departing from Brize Norton AFB?
 
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RE: MoD Ascension Island/Falklands Flights

Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:51 pm



Quoting KL911 (Reply 4):
Are civilians allowed to book as well?
Departing from Brize Norton AFB?

It is called RAF Brize Norton rather than the "Americanised" Brize Norton AFB.

The Brize website says:

"Q. Can I travel on RAF or MOD chartered aircraft to the Ascension and Falklands Islands?
A. You can travel as a fare paying passenger on our flights to these destinations. Details are available from the Falklands Island Government Office in London"

The FIGO website says that post-GSM, two flights a week will be operated by Air Italy and "negotiations are under way to determine a long term solution" which (sort of) answers the original question as well.
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RE: MoD Ascension Island/Falklands Flights

Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:53 pm

Sort of off-topic question, but this American isn't quite sure how to pronounce "RAF Brize Norton." Ok, ok, the "RAF" and "Norton" parts are clear enough, but how should "Brize" be pronounced? "Breeze"? "Brizz"? "Broyze"? "Briiiiize"?

Sorry, but we really are two peoples divided by a common language.
 
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RE: MoD Ascension Island/Falklands Flights

Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:56 pm



Quoting VC10DC10 (Reply 6):
Sort of off-topic question, but this American isn't quite sure how to pronounce "RAF Brize Norton." Ok, ok, the "RAF" and "Norton" parts are clear enough, but how should "Brize" be pronounced? "Breeze"? "Brizz"? "Broyze"? "Briiiiize"?

Sorry, but we really are two peoples divided by a common language.

Brize as in the word Ice.

Quoting GCT64 (Reply 5):
It is called RAF Brize Norton rather than the "Americanised" Brize Norton AFB.

The Brize website says:

"Q. Can I travel on RAF or MOD chartered aircraft to the Ascension and Falklands Islands?
A. You can travel as a fare paying passenger on our flights to these destinations. Details are available from the Falklands Island Government Office in London"

The FIGO website says that post-GSM, two flights a week will be operated by Air Italy and "negotiations are under way to determine a long term solution" which (sort of) answers the original question as well.

Thanks for the info!!
 
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RE: MoD Ascension Island/Falklands Flights

Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:58 pm



Quoting KL911 (Reply 4):
How many flights a week are we talking about? Are civilians allowed to book as well?

The normal schedule is 3 flights every 2 weeks.

There are a limited number of seats available to the general public - the usual allocation is 20-40 seats per flight depending on MoD requirements. Seats normally go to Falkland Islanders returning home, those working on Ascension & "Saints" picking up the RMS St Helena shipping service in Ascension as a priority.

http://www.ascension-flights.com/ascension-flights-schedule.htm

http://www.falklands.gov.fk/Getting_Here.html

http://www.rms-st-helena.com/raf_flights
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RE: MoD Ascension Island/Falklands Flights

Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:04 pm



Quoting KL911 (Reply 7):
Brize as in the word Ice.

Thank you!

Quoting Edina (Reply 8):
The normal schedule is 3 flights every 2 weeks.

Routing, presumably, RAF Brize Norton -- RAF Ascension Island -- RAF Mount Pleasant every time?
 
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RE: MoD Ascension Island/Falklands Flights

Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:12 pm



Quoting VC10DC10 (Reply 9):

Exactly, flights route BZZ-ASI-MPN

With RAF Ascension Island otherwise known as Wideawake Airfield.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/currentoperations/opsascension.cfm
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