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US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:39 pm

In the Feb. 15th issue of AvWeek they have a Q&A with Bell's new CEO, John Garrison who is a former US Army Ranger West Point grad with a Harvard MBA. They ask him how the H-1 program is going, and he begins by saying how "the Yankee (UH-1Y) is performing incredibly well in Afghanistan," and that "the US Army is using it for troop movement and in some attack roles."

My initial reaction was that this was just a typo on AvWeek's part, but maybe it was a goof on John Garrison's part?

Why in the world would the US Army who has H-60's and H-47's be relying on anything from the Marines to move their troops around in the high altitudes of AFG? Try as it may, the UH-1Y will never even be able to do all that an H-60 can. First off, I wouldn't think the Marines would have the time to haul the Army around, and second I wouldn't think the Army would want any part of using the Marine equipment/crews to boot?

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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:19 am

Maybe he meant the Marines were using it.
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:49 am

Obvious misquote. He mixed the US Army with the USMC. The Army officially retired all H-1 models on active duty over a decade ago, and all those on guard duty over a year ago.
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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:02 am

There are still a few UH-IHs flying with both active, and guard units.
 
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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:34 am

Quoting mechatnew (Reply 3):
There are still a few UH-IHs flying with both active, and guard units.

Give me one.
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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:21 am

Well Scrap (Flat) Iron at KOZR had them and where using them as of last month when a buddy of mine had a PL in an RT. In todays' day and age, he of course has iphone camera proof. I know that Rhode Island has officially stopped flying all of their's as well as New Hampshire. I believe they were some of the last states to be flying the old girl. I am actually the very first aviator to return to my unit with out ever having ridden in a flying huey. Trust me there were times where I was looking to PL to just be able to get the ride home, but it never worked out.
 
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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:44 am

I believe Hohenfels, Germany still has some in the OC/OPFOR role for the training going on there. They did not too long ago atleast, they may have recieve the LUH's by now.

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Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:46 am

Quoting Army15P (Reply 5):

Thanks Dan. I had a ride in one of those FlatIron birds when we PL'd many years ago, I wasn't aware that they still fly them.

But I was really looking for Mechatnew to give me at least one of these guard units, let alone an active unit!, that he speaks of. There are still a few old Huey's flying around for research, light support (ie: Rucker), but none of these are in active/guard units, and certainly none of these are deploying to Afghanistan!

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Just for those interested:

"Guard Retires UH-1 Huey After 50 Years of Service"
http://www.army.mil/-news/2009/10/09...-1-huey-after-50-years-of-service/

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Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:06 am

I remember getting a ride in the one white huey flat iron had after PL'ing out in an RT. Good Times.
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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:07 pm

The Mississippi NG has a least one UH-1H flying, also the active duty test unit at Holloman AFB had some last Oct.

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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:21 pm

Yeap I just checked. April 2010 is when Hohenfels will start to get the LUH. So there is atleast 10 UH-1H left on active duty for a couple more months.
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:46 pm

The USAF still flys UH-1N's at ADW and at all their missile bases.
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:54 pm

Fort Hood still flies 3 or 4 UH-1s around the base. I caught one a few weeks ago. Not sure if its a H model or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcY0CcHn0uY

Interesting article along with it.
http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/story.php?id=3098
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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:29 pm

I guess I should have been more specific. We were talking about the possibility of an Army UH-1 flying around Afghanistan, and when I asked for a guard/active unit with UH-1s... I thought it was understood that I was asking for a deployable line unit. Sorry for the confusion.

Quoting mechatnew (Reply 9):
The Mississippi NG has a least one UH-1H flying

The MNG had two UH-1Hs, but were replaced in 2009 with two LUH-72As. I looked and did not find anything stating that the UH-1s are still flying. Where is your info coming from?

Quoting mechatnew (Reply 9):
also the active duty test unit at Holloman AFB had some last Oct.
Quoting KCMike (Reply 10):
So there is atleast 10 UH-1H left on active duty for a couple more months.
Quoting KPDX (Reply 12):
Fort Hood still flies 3 or 4 UH-1s around the base.

...But none of these aircraft in test units, OPFOR units, or odd ball units are deployable line units, in either active or guard duty. There is no way ANY of these listed aircraft could have been seen flying around southern Afghanistan.

For US personnel, the only UH-1s flying in Afghanistan, belong to the USMC, USAF, Xe Services (blackwater)/CIA, etc.
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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:55 pm

The 1108 AVCRAD at Gulfport-Biloxi RAP, had at least one late model, FY 1974, as of Jan. I know a guy in the unit.
 
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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:17 am

Quoting KPDX (Reply 12):
Fort Hood still flies 3 or 4 UH-1s around the base. I caught one a few weeks ago. Not sure if its a H model or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcY0CcHn0uY

Interesting article along with it.
http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/stor...=3098

That article was interesting! Nice that they fly the ones given to them to scrap until the 150 hours for mandatory maintanance is up... get every lil bit you can out of them before they have to... sadly.. go.

I was born at Ft. Rucker and have lots of time riding in Hueys (civilian with Dad flying) so that will always be the helicopter dearest to my heart. Sad that they are around less and less but they won't be gone forever for a long time.
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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:57 am

Can an aircraft actually be assigned to an AVCRAD??? It's a depot level support facility, so wouldn't the facility simply be signed for the property temporarily?

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Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:10 am

Quoting mechatnew (Reply 14):
The 1108 AVCRAD at Gulfport-Biloxi RAP, had at least one late model, FY 1974, as of Jan. I know a guy in the unit.

After a little research:

http://mscoast.org/in-the-news/aviation-2013/

" But the AVCRAD is saying goodbye to one helicopter model that has been a mainstay for the U.S. military. In September the UH-1 Iroquois was retired from the Army inventory. To mark the event, the 1108th AVCRAD scheduled a ceremony in early October 2009 to formally retire the Huey and pay tribute to the Mississippi pilots and crew who flew the helicopter for the Army National Guard."

So I'm doubtful there is any remote possibility that some obscure UH-1 from the Mississippi AVCRAD could have been flying around southern Afghanistan.
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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:24 am

I suppose the topic was a bit strayed from. Its pretty clear that no standard army aviation assets or modern CAB's have the UH1. Its interesting to hear where the last hueys are still operating at. Good thread

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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:32 pm

The UH-1H and V have not been deployable in the Army for many, many years. While in use CONUS and places like Hohenfels, Germany (CMTC), the parts and troops to fly and maintain them existed only in the ARNG and a few isolated AD units. My old ARNG unit the saying was mall security would deploy before us, since we had UH-1s. When we got UH-60s, we were gone ASAP.
 
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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:29 am

AFAIK, the Geramn Army uses UH-1Ds in Afghanistan (together with CH-53Gs). I had my first and so far only flight in a helicopter in a Bundeswehr UH-1D back when I was 12 years old. The nickname for these choppers in Germany is "Teppichklopfer" (Carpet beater) due to the sound they make.

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RE: US Army Using UH-1Y In Afghanistan?

Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:35 pm

According to Combat Aircraft magazine's 2009 US Army airpower briefing the Army had in their inventory 123 UH-1H/V's, none in CAB's, TAB's or other deployable units. The Units that still operate the UH-1s (as of October 2009) are;

. US Army Air Ambulance detachment Yakima Training Center, Washington
. CARA Aviation section Phillips AAF Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland
. 5th aviation battalion (Provisional) JRTC Polk AAF, Fort Polk, Louisiana
. Corps Support Battalion NTC Fort Irwin/ Barstow Dagget AHP, California
. ABNSOTD Aviation branch Simmons AAF, Fort Bragg, North Carolina
. Flight test directorate Cairns AAF, Fort Rucker, Alabama
. Redstone AAF, (ATTC) Redstone Arsenal , Alabama
. Range Operations Directorate (WSMR) Holloman AFB, New Mexico
. Yuma Proving Ground Air operations Department Laguna AAF, Yuma, Arizona
. 21st Cavalry Brigade (Air Combat) HHT/ 21st CAV Hood AAF, Fort Hood, Texas
. Redstone Arsenal (AMCOM) Alabama
. Lakehurst NAES, NJ 12WD Flight Activity (CERDEC)
. NVESD Air Systems division Davison AAF, Fort Belvoir, Virginia
. Aviation Applied Technology Directorate (AMRDEC) Felker AAF, Fort Eustis, Virginia
. 110th Aviation Brigade (training) 1-223rd AVN Cairns AAF, Fort Rucker, Alabama
. US Army Europe JMRC Aviation Detachment Hohenfels, Germany (transitioning to UH-72 in FY '10)
. US Army Space and Missile Defense Command Aviation Detachment Bucholz AAF, Kwajalein Atoll
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