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Air Force One In Flight

Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:23 pm

What kind of special conditions does Air Force One get during flight? Does ATC completely clear out all air traffic from the area or is there just more space given?
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RE: Air Force One In Flight

Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:14 pm

In the air it gets the same separation as every other IFR aircraft. 1000' vertically and 3-5 miles laterally in a radar environment. At the airport where he's landing there will be a VIP TFR to keep any unathorized traffic either on the ground or away from the airport. http://tfr.faa.gov/tfr2/about.jsp.
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RE: Air Force One In Flight

Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:18 pm

Quoting jgarrido (Reply 1):
In the air it gets the same separation as every other IFR aircraft.

This almost caused a problem a few years ago during the President's secret holiday trip to Iraq. The flight plan was filed as a Gulfstream, and a nearby plane almost tipped ATC off that it was in fact not a Gulfstream but a 747.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
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RE: Air Force One In Flight

Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:11 am

I believe Air Force One also gets the most direct, Point A-B routing. At least domestically.
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RE: Air Force One In Flight

Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:58 pm

I thought there was a much more generous window around the aircraft when the President is on board. Basically it flies in a box where no other aircraft can fly. On landing and taking off the airspace is closed at an airport for a certain number of minutes before and after.

Interesting post in the commercial threads about Fox saying Gates mentioning money in the 2011 Budget for an AF One study. Gates saying their is money to look at the Air Force One replacement isn't the same as Obama allowing one to be ordered in this term. Sure study it but he would be smart to wait until a second term before allowing it to go to the actual order stage. It won't appear in his Presidency but the optics are what would be important. The AF One fleet is amazingly maintained so age really isn't an issue. Better to spend more $ keeping them in the air then having the optics of ordering a new set of aircraft at this stage and point of the economy.

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