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US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:26 pm

Is there any Army helicopter pilots on here? If so can you tell me what it's like to fly them and all that? thanks
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:57 pm

Yes, there is one in particular who, I believe, is still an active-duty Blackhawk driver. He's a friendly guy and an endless source of info on Army aviation and rotary-wing aviation in general. I'm sure he'll be along soon.  
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:28 pm

Quoting UAL727NE (Thread starter):
Is there any Army helicopter pilots on here?

There's a few of us.

Quoting UAL727NE (Thread starter):
If so can you tell me what it's like to fly them and all that? thanks

Better than flying circuits at FL280 in a RC-12.

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 1):
He's a friendly guy

lol, funny because I've been told that I'm a bit of an asshole!
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:04 pm

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 2):
Better than flying circuits at FL280 in a RC-12.

Well I was hoping for alittle more detail then that, but thanks anyway.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:31 pm

Quoting UAL727NE (Reply 3):

Well I was hoping for alittle more detail then that, but thanks anyway.

Perhaps more specific areas of interest would yield responses more to your needs?
 
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:17 pm

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 2):
Better than flying circuits at FL280 in a RC-12.

but not has good as flying a C-12 or UC-35 and getting the good TDY...hehe
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:19 pm

Quoting GST (Reply 4):
Perhaps more specific areas of interest would yield responses more to your needs?

Well everything about it. What the training is like, Whats it like flying with one hand on the collective? That how you spell it? Flying it in turbulance, stuff like that.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:20 pm

Whats the C-12, UC-35?
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:23 pm

I believe there are actually quite a few Army Aviators on the site. With a wide range of platforms between us. I'm a Black Hawk driver myself, Chief Warrant Officer 2 flavored. In regards to your question, your asking a very generic question and seem to be expecting a very detailed answer. In Army rotary wing aviation alone we have 5 aircraft platforms. For instance, you have a widely ranging base of knowledge so far in this post alone. I'm early on in my "progression" with the Hawk. Just was singed off RL1, which basically means I'm now a fully mission capable pilot, and I'm working my way towards being a Pilot in Command. So my area of knowledge regarding flying and what its like to fly will be alot less then UH60. To answer your question though, what is it like to fly the Hawk? Mentally demanding, and absolutely the greatest thing I've ever done. Even though the birds I play with are 30 odd years old, they do some pretty amazing things in the air.
 
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:29 pm

Quoting UAL727NE (Reply 7):
Whats the C-12, UC-35?

C-12 is a Beechcraft King Air B200 (or B350 and B1900 though vary rare)
UC-35 is a Citation V (Encore or Ultra model)

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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:31 pm

Thanks Army15p! So did you choose the UH60 or did you get assigned to it? Whats it like on takeoff, how does it handle inflight? I guess thats what I'm looking for just detailed about whatever helicopter you may fly.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:38 pm

Quoting DonnieCS (Reply 5):

but not has good as flying a C-12 or UC-35 and getting the good TDY...hehe

As for the TDY, I'm not familiar with how much fix-wing guys log, but for me - I go TDY a lot. And yes, the money is great!

But as for the greatness of flying VIPs around... I just don't see the thrill. They're schedules are at the mercy of the VIP, and change at moment's notice. They take-off, engage the autopilot, and play cards. It's a very sterile, benign job. But hey, a lot of guys get off on that, and good for them. Just like I would never want to fly a Chinook or an Apache, I wouldn't want to fly fix-wing VIP. **snooze**

Quoting UAL727NE (Reply 6):
Well everything about it. What the training is like, Whats it like flying with one hand on the collective? That how you spell it? Flying it in turbulance, stuff like that.

It's a full spectrum flight training curriculum, ground and air. Basic rotary introduction, instruments, air scout tactics and NVG introduction, then advancement to your primary airframe. Although the exact structure may be different these days, I went through the legacy training, and now they have Flight School XXI course. Army15P might be able to expand on what's new.

As for flying with a collective? It's really not a big deal.

And as for turbulence, it's like any fixed wing flying... you bounce around a lot, and try not to spill your coffee.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:43 pm

Thanks UH60. So you do a few weeks basic then you find out what frame you will be in and go to that course? Is all the different frame courses there at Dothan?
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:49 pm

Oh and whats the highest it can fly? And on non combat mission's what is the normal Alt. you fly at?
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:00 am

Quoting UAL727NE (Reply 12):
So you do a few weeks basic then you find out what frame you will be in and go to that course? Is all the different frame courses there at Dothan?

No, it's much longer. It works out to about 10-12 months of flight training, barring any delays. It makes for some very long days. 0400-1700, pt, flying, ground classes, studying at night, etc.

The rotary flight training is conducted north of Dothan at Fort Rucker, at numerous airfields. The basic fixed-wing flight training is conducted at Dothan airport, and there are numerous locations through the US for the aircraft specific training.

Quoting UAL727NE (Reply 13):
Oh and whats the highest it can fly? And on non combat mission's what is the normal Alt. you fly at?

Depends. What aircraft? Where in the US? What is the training objective? Etc. It's a pretty broad question, you need to narrow it down.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:37 pm

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 2):
Better than flying circuits at FL280 in a RC-12.

Kinda like a NASCAR driver... Left turn, Left turn Left turn, Left turn......

I bumped into a RC-12 pilot here in Nashville last fall at my favorite cigar shop. I bought us each a sweet $20 cigar and we both enjoyed them.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:02 am

Speaking for the MEDEVAC (Dust Off!) community. We have a unique mission on the battlefield and a few places stateside. In short we work on call duty days waiting for a 9-Line medical emergancy and then quickly respond flying to the location were given, pick up the patients and fly them to a place where they can recieve more in depth medical care. We dont spend weeks planning routes, alternate routes, go arounds, alternate go arounds, what happens if theres a cat in the LZ.... we stay up on the weather and tactical situation and stand by for the call. We just arrived in the mid-east to perform this mission. (Ill be heading over a few weeks behind them as we just had our first daughter!)...But thats also part of the army. Expect to spend alot of time away from home.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:11 am

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 14):
No, it's much longer.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as a newbee do you go through Basic Training first...then W/O School.... then Basic Flight School...then Advanced Flight School (airframe specific).....?
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:13 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 17):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as a newbee do you go through Basic Training first...then W/O School.... then Basic Flight School...then Advanced Flight School (airframe specific).....?

Yes. Commonly referred to as "High school to flight school" or "Street to seat". Some 19 y/o is an army aviator right now.

EDIT: As far as your in depth questions regarding our aircrafts performance, On a public post like this I wouldnt count on getting as much as you seem to want. Reading your other post it sounds like your joining. Once in get with a pilot where you work at and get some answers.

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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:21 am

Quoting KCMike (Reply 16):
Speaking for the MEDEVAC (Dust Off!) community

When I encounter any Dustoff guys in the bar, be advised your money will be no good.....I've had the pleasure of seeing you guys in action. Easy to pick out in flight: alone, unarmed,with huge balls.
 
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:26 am

Quoting KCMike (Reply 16):
We dont spend weeks planning routes, alternate routes, go arounds, alternate go arounds, what happens if theres a cat in the LZ.... we stay up on the weather and tactical situation and stand by for the call.

The whole MEDEVAC system is broken. There is no reason why MED Corps still retains those assets and officers. Having a Med Service major running a company is ridiculous.

Part of the reason why so many med flight companies still fly old A models is because the Army offered them the L model in the early 90s, but they rejected it in favor of their own, in design phase, Q model... which of course turned out to be a real turkey. Then they gutted the company size, and incorporated them into the GSAB. Well the whole point of having a Major (O-4) in charge of the airmedical company was because the company had to be nearly self-sufficient. Hence why it had it's own ground support element... and the platoons could be split and sent off independently. That's why they're MTOE'd O-3s as PLT leaders, the captain could run the plt akin to a flight company. But that's no longer the case. The company falls under the GSAB, and the GSAB provides the support and additional assets.

In the perfect world the Army would strip air ambulance assets from MEDCOM, and put aviation officers in charge. If the GSAB/Division is going to support the company, they ought to have their own aviation officers in command. Not to mention, Med Service officers typically suck balls, and make for horrible aviation unit commanders.

....And as for them not doing any significant planning... yeah....

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 17):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as a newbee do you go through Basic Training first...then W/O School.... then Basic Flight School...then Advanced Flight School (airframe specific).....?

Yeah like KCMike noted, it's commonly referred to as "street to seat (S2S)". It's only a small percentage though, and it works out to about 85% are prior service, and 15% are S2S. I was a 67T (now a 15T). I've known quite a few S2S guys, and while some were shit hot, I find many of them to be behind their prior service brethren.

Here's another Army aviation history lesson. Warrant officers use to go through Candidate School (which was much harder and had a much higher attrition rate), then they went to flight school, and the whole time they were still candidates. They would go to classes, fly, have mandatory study periods in the evening, and had to live on post. On the day of their graduation they would earn the rank of WO1, and then immediately pin on their wings.

So they would show up to their unit as a brand new WO1. By regulation the warrant must serve 24 months as a WO1, to be promoted - via time-in-grade - to CW2. So what this did was allow the WO1 to fly for 2 years in his unit, and log heavy. They were EXPECTED to go out there, make mistakes, learn their airframe, and live and breathe aviation. Getting CW2 was a big deal, not only because you were commissioned as an officer, but because now you were viewed as an experienced pilot who did not make mistakes.

...But that all changed. Over a decade ago, they changed it so that the candidate pins WO1 ranks on the day of their graduation from WOCS (6weeks long). And then they go to flight school, which can be anywhere between 12-24months long. So now we have these guys showing up to the unit at the cusp of pinning CW2... and they have a few hundred flight hours!! So we have all these CW2s flying around, with frighteningly low hours, making newbie mistakes. It's not their fault, but it has strongly diminished the respect the rank of CW2 use to hold.

So to bring this full circle, here we have all of these low hour CW2s showing up, and if he is a S2S guy... he has NO experience with Army life. He is no different than a brand new 2LT butter par, or mosquito wings PV2. But he's showing up as a CW2 and he's expected to be on top of his game and proficient in the Army. And it usually doesn't happen.

S2S was a great program because the guy had all flight school as a candidate, and 2 years as a line unit WO1, to get proficient in the Army. But now we're just throwing them into the fire, with only basic and WOCS as their schooling.   
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:07 am

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 20):
I've known quite a few S2S guys, and while some were shit hot, I find many of them to be behind their prior service brethren.

Ill have to disagree as to the quality of aviators produced by S2S guys and joe with a couple of years in. I was a S2S guy with a couple hundred hours coming into the program. Alot of the S2S guys I went through class with were former helicopter CFI's, Guys who had thousands of hours but the airline situation wasnt working out, and other guys with a wealth of pilot experiance who decided to serve their country. I dont have numbers or stats, but I know none of these guys had any problems throughout flight school. My buddy at my unit was/is a helicopter CFI and breezed through progression, I had no problem progressing either aside from still zeroing in the touch for a helicopter. The army does things differently than the civilian side of aviation. But a 1000 hour commercial pilot going into rucker will progress/catch on alot faster than a guy whos never flown before. Ive noticed that at my unit as well as flight school. That being said, there are S2S guys with no flight experiance, some excelled, some sucked. I think prior flight time/ratings should be mandatory for the program.

Last, the attitude that alot of prior enlisted guys seemed to have was flying was a reward for just getting off the ground, and were hard on the old stereotype that warrants dont do PT, dont show up to work unless theyre flying, grow long hair, etc. Showing a lower level of professionalism than their S2S peers who have had the only example of the army at WOCS and maintained that higher standard, and now the prior's experiance which rubbed off. Most of our commisioned pilots arent former enlisted, that goes for our other branch's of service as well. It works out just fine, we all live and learn. Adapting to the army is the easy part. There are bad apples in every bunch of course, from priests to politicians to pilots. But thats the oppinion ive developed since joining.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:22 am

Quoting KCMike (Reply 21):
Ill have to disagree as to the quality of aviators produced by S2S guys and joe with a couple of years in. I was a S2S guy with a couple hundred hours coming into the program. Alot of the S2S guys I went through class with were former helicopter CFI's, Guys who had thousands of hours but the airline situation wasnt working out, and other guys with a wealth of pilot experiance who decided to serve their country.

Sorry, I guess I didn't make my point clear... I wasn't basing those comments on their flying abilities. I was speaking more to their overall development as a soldier. I don't deny that guys with prior flight time have a leg up on those who don't. In fact, I am jealous that some of these guys have so much civilian time. I recently hit 2,000hrs, but we just got a guy (S2S) who assessed for the unit, and he had 1200 civilian time, plus 900military time... and he's 25. So I don't hold that against them. Instead, what I spoke towards was the fact that your average S2S warrant is no different than your average PV2/2LT.

But hey, I certainly wasn't trying to make a swipe at you. I agree, there are shitty prior-service guys, and there are shit hot S2S guys. But in my experience, S2S warrants definitely struggle more to assimilate than prior service warrants. Whereas in the past it was not such a big deal because S2S guys had basic, 1+yrs of candidacy/flight school, and 2yrs as a WO1. But while that is different today, what is not different is that a CW2 showing up to his unit is still expected to hit the ground running.

I guess what I'm arguing is that it's absolutely unacceptable for guys arriving to their first unit as a CW2, and if they're S2S it only means there is that much more that needs to be learned. The warrant corps is not what it use to be.

Quoting KCMike (Reply 21):
warrants dont do PT, dont show up to work unless theyre flying, grow long hair, etc.


haha that all pretty much holds true for me.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:02 am

Yea I joined, I leave for WTC on 5 May. Going in as 19D. I read up on alot of the Warrant stuff like the WOCS and 32 weeks of flight training. Sorry that i'm not being more specific on my questions. Say you are going to fly a UH60 XC to another base far away. Weather is good 10mi visibility. What ALT. would you most likely fly at? 5, 10000AGL?
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:10 am

Quoting UAL727NE (Reply 23):
Yea I joined, I leave for WTC on 5 May. Going in as 19D.

19D??? I thought you were looking for an MOS in aviation, specifically a pilot slot? What motivated you to pick 19D?

Quoting UAL727NE (Reply 23):
Say you are going to fly a UH60 XC to another base far away. Weather is good 10mi visibility. What ALT. would you most likely fly at? 5, 10000AGL?

Again, it really all depends. Different units have different TACOPS, which will dictate how they will fly. And then different types of airspace have different requirements.

But for a simple answer, a VIP aircraft would file IFR and fly at 8000ft MSL. Most regular army air assault units would fly at 1000-2000ft AGL. 160th would fly about 500-1000ft AGL. And MEDEVAC would fly at 50ft AGL, and hit wires.  
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Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:43 am

Well the Army said I had to get into the Army first then get accepted to WOCS. They said it's hard to go straight into WOCS from the get go, possible, but hard now days. Since i'm prior service I had a small list of jobs I could take, E-4, there was no openings. So I deranked to E-3 and a few came up, truck driver, witch I do now and hate it, Airborne Inf., all the helicopter crew cheif spots, and a few other lame office jobs. I wanted AH64 or UH60 CC but since it's a 6 year commitment I couldn't take it, I could only sign upto 4 years. So I chose 19D since that job kinda dips into everything combat and think it would be some good experience. I have a few buddies that are 19D's and they love it. But as soon as I can rub shoulder's with some WO's and get a good solid packet together i'm going to fly. It's my lifelong dream since I was about 7 when I first saw an airplane.

And even though my long term goal in life is be an airline pilot, if I don't get a fixed wing slot, I think being able to fly both fixed and rotor wing aircraft would too be really good experience.

Oh and thanks for the info! That's what I was wanting to know. Sorry again for the confusion, in my mind the reason i'm going into the Army is to fly, just not right away lol. I do have an appointment to go talk to a CW5 down in Ft. Campbell as soon as I get out of AIT. So hopefully I can get a slot soon. sooner then later too.

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Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:17 am

Quoting UAL727NE (Reply 25):
Well the Army said I had to get into the Army first then get accepted to WOCS. They said it's hard to go straight into WOCS from the get go, possible, but hard now days. Since i'm prior service I had a small list of jobs I could take, E-4, there was no openings. So I deranked to E-3 and a few came up, truck driver, witch I do now and hate it, Airborne Inf., all the helicopter crew cheif spots, and a few other lame office jobs. I wanted AH64 or UH60 CC but since it's a 6 year commitment I couldn't take it, I could only sign upto 4 years. So I chose 19D since that job kinda dips into everything combat and think it would be some good experience. I have a few buddies that are 19D's and they love it. But as soon as I can rub shoulder's with some WO's and get a good solid packet together i'm going to fly. It's my lifelong dream since I was about 7 when I first saw an airplane.

Well it sounds like you at least considered the options, which is good. But since you're prior service, you're not considered "street to seat" and I don't believe you have to put together the civilian packet, rather the prior service packet.

And you can put that packet in at ANY time. You do not have to wait until your enlistment contract is fulfilled. My best advice is for you to start studying for your AFAST, and take it as soon as you get out of AIT. You can go to your ed-center and they'll schedule a test date for you. But definitely study. Second, start preparing your packet requirements early. As soon as you've got everything in order, submit it. And if you get turned down, don't get discouraged, you can resubmit as often as you want.

I'm not saying anything against 19Ds, but unless you have your heart set on going balls to the wall for the next 4 years, submit your packet as soon as possible after AIT!
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:37 am

Yes sir!! that's the plane. The commander at the Recuiter Station just got accepted to fly, so when I went in there to talk to my Recuiter he talked to me all about it and got me set up with that interview. Yes been a student pilot since 2001 and can't afford civilian flight school, don't have my Bachlor Degree YET so Army Aviation was looking like the best option for me. Is there a book I can get for the AFAST test so I can start studying?

Where are you stationed at now? Do you fly MED, the blackhawk's with the stub wing's(special forces?) or just the regular blackhawk I guess you call it?

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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:47 am

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 22):
I guess what I'm arguing is that it's absolutely unacceptable for guys arriving to their first unit as a CW2, and if they're S2S it only means there is that much more that needs to be learned. The warrant corps is not what it use to be.

Agreed. I was a CW2 before I was RL1. My CO noted after he promoted me, "No one knows how whether you just progressed or are a tracked warrant officer". Which is the total truth.

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 22):
I wasn't basing those comments on their flying abilities. I was speaking more to their overall development as a soldier.

Sorry I ran away with the topic. But that is true. There definitly was a steep learning curve. Especially getting the goggle wojg dumped on ya. Having to figure out the logistics on where and who to go to get those things fixed and inspected. That was fun. But like anything you figure it out eventually. Transitioning from civilian to military is without a doubt a change in way of life.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:06 am

Quoting UAL727NE (Reply 27):
Is there a book I can get for the AFAST test so I can start studying?

Yes there are books that help you study for the exam.

Try:

http://www.amazon.com/Master-Militar...Tests/dp/0768927935/ref=pd_sim_b_4

Or there are free guides you can find online, google is your best bet to find them.

Quoting UAL727NE (Reply 27):
Where are you stationed at now? Do you fly MED, the blackhawk's with the stub wing's(special forces?) or just the regular blackhawk I guess you call it?

I spent most of my early career was with the 101st at Campbell, but now I'm up at Lewis. I've never flown in a medevac unit, just never got the chance - I've conducted casevac missions, but it's definitely a unique and brave (crazy?) type of person that willingly joins up for that mission. The "wings" come in two main designs: the larger one is for carrying CEFS (external fuel tanks) or external weapon stores; and the other is for weapon stores, but is 'stubbed' to allow better M134 firing arcs.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:11 am

Wow I really can't wait to fly these thing's. I used to hate choppers but now they grew on me alot. I always stay at the Pilot truck stop right there on I-24 in Oak Grove KY when I drive down there, and I hope I can get stationed at Ft Lewis. I heard there is a Cav Unit there. How do you like the area up there? I'm a huge outdoors guy and love fishing, hunting, camping. Oh and thanks for the link. I'll look it up.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:36 am

Quoting UAL727NE (Reply 30):
I hope I can get stationed at Ft Lewis. I heard there is a Cav Unit there. How do you like the area up there?

I think that Cav unit only has Kiowa Warriors and they're the only regular army helicopters, while the H-60s and H-47s belong to the Washington guard.

As for the area, I love it. There's a lot for my wife and two sons, the schools are good, and we own a large house with 22 acres. The only major gripe I have is the taxes, which are simply out of control in this state.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:44 am

WOW, i'd like to have a house on 22 acres up there. Yea I did some research on the area up there and the house's and the area look's really nice. Better then where I live now, it's flat and corn fields in NE. I've heard alot on the high taxes up there in WA and OR. Another plus of being stationed up there is that i'd be close to Boeing Aircraft. Alway's wanted to go up there and take a tour and see all those new plane's flying around.
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RE: US Army Helicopter Pilots

Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:57 pm

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 29):
I've conducted casevac missions, but it's definitely a unique and brave (crazy?) type of person that willingly joins up for that mission.

Aside from the whole heritage of Dust Off. I think the army should paint of the red cross and rename the mission CSAR. Those bastards are going to shoot at you regardless. The red cross even presents a bulls eye. Atleast as CSAR we can go into somewhere with guns blazin if need be, its not a ton of fire power but a M134 or SAW in the window would be pretty nice.
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