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F-15SE Makes First Flight

Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:36 pm

Boeing announced their F-15SE Silent Eagle, dubbed the F-15E1 made its first flight yesterday. The flight lasted abour 80 minutes and included opening the weapons bay door on the left CFT. No missiles or weapons were lanched or released. The flight was made from Boeing's STL facility, and will continue with a deployment to a weapons test range in a few weeks.

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=13&item=1156
 
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:53 pm

> The flight lasted abour 80 minutes and included opening the weapons bay
> door on the left CFT. No missiles or weapons were lanched or released.

Whew - just barely avoided another "Escape from New York" situation!

sPh

(for those who don't get the reference, the cheesy 1980s action movie "Escape from New York" was filmed in the old downtown St. Louis industrial district - because the director and special effects guys were able to burn and blow up large-scale buildings at very low cost!)
 
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:57 pm

Just to clarify, it was just a demonstrator that tested the conformal weapons bay. No canted tail fins or other RCS-reducing features have been installed yet:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ts-with-export-license-flight.html
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:51 pm

Quoting A342 (Reply 2):
Just to clarify, it was just a demonstrator that tested the conformal weapons bay. No canted tail fins or other RCS-reducing features have been installed yet:

I didn't write that, and you are right, I should have.....me bad.    But I thought Boeing decided against the canted tails on the F-15SE a few months ago.
 
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:31 am

Boeing decided to get the conformal weapon bay and other stealth features completed and tested first, then work on the canted vert stabs if there is interest in it.

I think it would be an important feature because if you are going up against the F-35 for sales, you dont want the same old F-15 with something strapped to it. The canted stabs will make the SE stand out from the legacy F-15s on a flight line.
 
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:46 am

Quoting Oroka (Reply 4):
The canted stabs will make the SE stand out from the legacy F-15s on a flight line.

And not to mention that a large portion of the F-15 classic's (enormous) non-frontal radar cross section was due to the vertical fins, if they are canted even a moderate amount this is drastically reduced. I suspect that it will be a required feature to make the aircraft competitive if "stealth" is still being used as a selling point.

EDIT: Pathetic spelling and grammar.

[Edited 2010-07-11 04:11:13]
 
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:42 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
But I thought Boeing decided against the canted tails on the F-15SE a few months ago.
Quoting Oroka (Reply 4):
Boeing decided to get the conformal weapon bay and other stealth features completed and tested first, then work on the canted vert stabs if there is interest in it.

Boeing clarified that canted fins were not "intended" to be on their flight test aircraft.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...r-f-15-silent-eagle-corrected.html

Quote:
"CORRECTION: Boeing says the F-15SE flight test aircraft was never intended to have canted tails, nor has the production configuration been settled."


.....but could be a customer option per the link in Reply 2.....

Quote:
"Depending on the customer's desires, the F-15SE also may include other upgrades, including a panorama cockpit display, a BAE Systems digital electronic warfare system (DEWS) and tail fins canted outward by 15º."


Quick implementation and demonstration of those, and some masking of the intakes will be vital in deflecting the F-35's appeal - and in convincing the RoKAF to select it for KF-X3.
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:06 pm

here are some high res images of the flight - since u have to register at the Boeing sight

http://img.blog.yahoo.co.kr/ybi/1/24/56/shinecommerce/folder/18/img_18_29305_2?1279104122.jpg
http://img.blog.yahoo.co.kr/ybi/1/24/56/shinecommerce/folder/18/img_18_29305_0?1279104122.jpg
http://img.blog.yahoo.co.kr/ybi/1/24/56/shinecommerce/folder/18/img_18_29305_1?1279104122.jpg
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:17 am

Interesting...so they plan to use part of the internal volume of the CFT for weapon storage. So how much will be left for fuel? It looks like only a single AMRAAM will fit in there.

[Edited 2010-07-26 17:19:42]
 
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:58 am

No fuel, just ordinance. The CFT can be removed and replaced with a standard CFT in about 3 hours IIRC.
 
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:40 pm

Nice I wish the US would buy some and get off this the F-35 will solve everything kick
 
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:33 pm

Quoting wvsuperhornet (Reply 10):
Nice I wish the US would buy some and get off this the F-35 will solve everything kick

Pray that the "Powers That Be" grant your wish.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/th...saf-considers-new-f-15s-and-f.html

Quote:
"3. Procuring new upgraded variants of legacy aircraft such as the F-16 and F-15
4. A combination of options 2 and 3

The fact that the USAF has even considered resuming F-16 and F-15 orders could be very significant. Two decades of USAF leaders have consistently upheld the all-stealth rule for combat aircraft.

The USAF reports, however, do not endorse the non-stealth procurement option, according to the GAO. Modernizing and extending the service life of 300 F-16s could provide the same capability as buying new jets, but at 10-15% of the cost, GAO says."



.http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8792/f16block60uaeci2.jpg


I hope they would adopt the more pragmatic approach.   

[Edited 2010-08-12 08:42:28]
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:48 pm

AFM this month reports that the F-15SE has successfully fired an inert AMRAAM from the CWB. No info on date
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RE: F-15SE Makes First Flight

Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:55 pm

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