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India Beefs Up Air Defenses On Chinese Border

Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:01 pm

Will the Chinese counter? Are there boundary disputes?

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4742485&c=ASI&s=AIR

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The Indian Air Force has deployed a full squadron of Russian-made Sukhoi Su-30MKI multirole aircraft to an air base near the Chinese border.
The Su-30s are at the Air Force base in Tezpur in the eastern state of Assam.
Another air base near the border, Chabua, is being upgraded to house Sukhois, transport aircraft and eventually the Medium Multirole Combat Aircraft (MMRCA), a senior Indian Air Force official said.
The moves are part of the effort to strengthen India's defenses against China.
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Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:11 pm

This weakens the argument that India shouldn't buy F-16INs because Pakistan also has F-16s.
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Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:31 pm

Several years ago, in connection with another topic, I posited the possibility that an expansionist China would cast a covetous eye south and north for land and resources. As I recall that drew howls of protest from a few here.
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:40 am

Let's see what their MKIs would be up against.....


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They would definitely need something else besides their Tejas, Mirages and MiGs! But it would be too expensive to cover it all with Typhoons or Rafales.
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Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:05 am

Quoting Lumberton (Thread starter):
Are there boundary disputes?

yes, there is a disputed area and "line of control", similar to Jammu-Kashmir but much less fought over and publicised, between India and China
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Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:16 am

Quoting Lumberton (Thread starter):
Are there boundary disputes?

SEVERE!!! about 250,000 sqkm. And a war in 62 where India got thrashed royally.

Quoting Lumberton (Thread starter):
Will the Chinese counter?

This is a counter to a Chinese build up. The Russo-Chinese treaty covering the Su-30 sale asked for the Sus to be stationed away from the northern borders. so they were stationed in Szechuan aimed at India's north east and in the guangdong province and hainan island aimed at dominating the spratly islands.

The Szechuan bases are the main threat to the entire Indian north-east (about 300,000Sqkm) that are separated from India by a slender chickens neck.

India enjoys civilian overflight rights - but military will probably be suspended by Nepal, Bangladesh and Bhutan during a war - this given the Chinese the opportunity to herd Indian planes into a very narrow killing zone.

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Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:50 pm

Actually, Assam boarders Tibet (which is also claimed by China) and Burma (Myanmar?). Assam has some oil and natueral gas reserves.

India would be hard pressed to defend the state of Assam, but it could be done. They would need a lot more than one squadron of new fighters, though.

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Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:16 pm

Are the Indian pilots much better trained than the Chinese? I would imagine they would have the edge, no?
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:46 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 7):
Are the Indian pilots much better trained than the Chinese? I would imagine they would have the edge, no?

Not sure, but India has attended Red Flag in Nevada recently so I am sure that helped sharpen their skills somewhat, going up against the best pilots from across the world.
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Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:50 am

India received a drubbing at the hands of China in the 60s. She needs to either have overwhelming superiority against this threat or better still, have the US guarantee her borders. Today we learn that China has just strung a necklace of CSS-5 MRBM missiles across the border:

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ch...-borders-with-india-pentagon-45220

Granted, as nuclear powers, MAD comes into play as a deterrent, but for India to take on China and its BFF Pakistan simultaneously is the real challenge it must meet.

The Doomsday scenario is when China has to grow at a certain percentage to prevent civil unrest, and that growth is contingent on access to scarce resources.
 
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Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:25 am

Quoting comorin (Reply 10):
The Doomsday scenario is when China has to grow at a certain percentage to prevent civil unrest, and that growth is contingent on access to scarce resources.

I'm not sure I'd call it "Doomsday", but I have maintained that this is a likely scenario at some point in the future. The Indian border isn't the really scary one; IMO, its the northern border with Russia, particularly along the Amur. A nuclear armed China, desperate for living space and resources just might be willing to take the chance and go "all in" in an attempt to carve out a chunk of Siberia. That's a "Doomsday" scenario.
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Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:55 pm

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 11):
A nuclear armed China, desperate for living space and resources just might be willing to take the chance and go "all in" in an attempt to carve out a chunk of Siberia. That's a "Doomsday" scenario.

With the slight problem that China would cease to exist if they don't give up quickly.
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Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:07 pm

Quoting A342 (Reply 12):
With the slight problem that China would cease to exist if they don't give up quickly.

Alternatively, China might just think they could intimidate Russia by threatening mass retaliation? Russia's defense capabilities are nowhere close to what they were in the heyday of the USSR; less interceptors, aircraft and missiles, and lacking the conventional military capability to resist a serious Chinese offensive thrust into Siberia. I have no idea of the extent of the Chinese nuclear stockpile but I would be willing to hazard a guess that they could deliver a few hundred nukes via aircraft and missiles. Would Russia's leadership risk mutual assured destruction?
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Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:41 pm

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 11):
Quoting comorin (Reply 10):
The Doomsday scenario is when China has to grow at a certain percentage to prevent civil unrest, and that growth is contingent on access to scarce resources.

I'm not sure I'd call it "Doomsday", but I have maintained that this is a likely scenario at some point in the future. The Indian border isn't the really scary one; IMO, its the northern border with Russia, particularly along the Amur. A nuclear armed China, desperate for living space and resources just might be willing to take the chance and go "all in" in an attempt to carve out a chunk of Siberia. That's a "Doomsday" scenario.

Let's hope that for a while China is more interested in economic growth versus expansionism. Ironically, being armed to the teeth with nukes is what keeps the peace these days - so much for START.

Russia still has ICBMS and nukes in the 000's but perhaps stretched for conventional warfare?
 
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Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:02 pm

All this talk about China and Russia reminded me of the Tom Clancy novel "The Bear and the Dragon".
If Russia is so weak, maybe they should join NATO to get protection from China 

Back to China and India. I would think you'll more likely get a shooting war between China and Taiwan then China and India.

Even a shooting war between China and Vietnam over the Spratly is more likely. The border conflict in 1979 had China doing of damage to Vietnam but getting it's nose bloodied badly in doing so. India would be a tougher opponent.

Furthermore, any long term conflict between India and China would require major logistics. How are the road/train network in western China vs. eastern India? These issues are not as flashy as planes and missiles but they are the things that win wars. Maybe the Indian C-17 will shore up some logistics deficiency?


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RE: India Beefs Up Air Defenses On Chinese Border

Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:31 pm

Quoting A342 (Reply 12):
With the slight problem that China would cease to exist if they don't give up quickly.

Sadly I don't think China would care if they lost tens of million or even a hundred million of it's citizens. Their government simply doesn't value human life. As long as their leadership isn't directly affected and they can maintain control of the country they simply won't care. They also have plenty of nukes capable of reaching Russia and an overwhelming technological and numerical military advantage. I think Russia's best defense (as it's always has been) will be the winter.

I hope if full out war ever did break out between China and Russia or China and India that the US could find a way to stay out of it.

Quoting bikerthai (Reply 15):
How are the road/train network in western China vs. eastern India?

I don't know about China, but India has awful trains
 
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RE: India Beefs Up Air Defenses On Chinese Border

Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:39 pm

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 13):
Would Russia's leadership risk mutual assured destruction?

I don't know, but I'm 99% sure Putin wouldn't sit on his hands and just accept it. He would show strength, and IMHO this includes nuclear warfare if necessary.

Quoting norcal (Reply 16):
Sadly I don't think China would care if they lost tens of million or even a hundred million of it's citizens. Their government simply doesn't value human life. As long as their leadership isn't directly affected and they can maintain control of the country they simply won't care.

The number would be more like several hundred millions. And if a war of such scale breaks out, the leadership WILL be affected. The country is going to break down completely, and what may be left of the leadership will be swept away.


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Quoting norcal (Reply 16):
They also have plenty of nukes capable of reaching Russia and an overwhelming technological and numerical military advantage.

You're correct about the numerical advantage, but IMO not about the technological one. After all, despite their own aircraft programmes, they are still buying Su-30s and reverse-engineering Su-27s. Their strategic bomber fleet essentially consists of domestic-built, mildly updated Tu-16s. However, it seems like they're now advancing in terms of ICBM technology.

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Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:11 pm

Quoting bikerthai (Reply 15):
Back to China and India. I would think you'll more likely get a shooting war between China and Taiwan then China and India.

I agree that a Taiwan "gambit" is much more likely. However, just like us here trying to postulate on the future, even the best of plans go awry. (I've always felt, and have speculated here one or two times, that Taiwan has a couple of insurance nukes stashed away, possibly from the aborted South African program, or purchased outright from Israel, India, or Pakistan--or even those zany, lovable North Koreans). A China-India border quarrel could escalate into something ugly, but I believe it would stop short of nuclear war. The Chinese would have too much to lose for too little gain. Siberia, on the other hand, represents a huge treasure trove of living space and resources--including arable land.

I guess another question would be related to the Indian Air Force. Most of us, myself included, felt it was aimed at Pakistan. Perhaps China looms just as large in their planning?
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Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:50 am

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 18):
I guess another question would be related to the Indian Air Force. Most of us, myself included, felt it was aimed at Pakistan. Perhaps China looms just as large in their planning?

After the 1962 war with China and the subsequent period of "relative peace", China was sort of relegated to Threat No. 2. Remember that India fought two and a half wars with Pakistan there after - 1965, 1971 and the Kargil conflict in 1999. Pakistan has therefore been a more current and regular threat as compared to China.

However, China has always been on the defence planners' minds. Former defence minister George Fernandes had once famously branded China as India's enemy no. 1. There have been a few incidents (border skirmishes, intrusions, etc) with China on and off, but largely there has been peace.

These steps that India is taking NOW is in response to China building up its military infrastructure across the border, especially in Tibet. This includes building the railway line to Tibet, upgrading its airfields and now the deployment of CSS-5 missiles.
 
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Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:01 am

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 11):
I'm not sure I'd call it "Doomsday", but I have maintained that this is a likely scenario at some point in the future. The Indian border isn't the really scary one; IMO, its the northern border with Russia, particularly along the Amur. A nuclear armed China, desperate for living space and resources just might be willing to take the chance and go "all in" in an attempt to carve out a chunk of Siberia. That's a "Doomsday" scenario.

Last time they tried that at in 1969 at Damansky, they got pulverized. It was the Chineese regular army vs. a platoon of our Border Guards. A direct order from the Kremlin did not let the Russian regular army engage as that could spark a war, so it was basically the border guards fighting against wave after wave of Chineese infantry. And these guys were also conscripts, and now the quality of training in our army is going up, although quantity is decreasing. So I think that even conventionally, they would have a hard time getting anywhere.
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Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:26 am

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 11):

I'm not sure I'd call it "Doomsday", but I have maintained that this is a likely scenario at some point in the future. The Indian border isn't the really scary one; IMO, its the northern border with Russia, particularly along the Amur. A nuclear armed China, desperate for living space and resources just might be willing to take the chance and go "all in" in an attempt to carve out a chunk of Siberia. That's a "Doomsday" scenario.

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Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:17 pm

A timely article on China and India was published today by the Economist.

http://www.economist.com/node/16846256

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The prospect of renewed war between India and China is, for now, something that disturbs the sleep only of virulent nationalists in the Chinese press and retired colonels in Indian think-tanks. Optimists prefer to hail the $60 billion in trade the two are expected to do with each other this year (230 times the total in 1990). But the 20th century taught the world that blatantly foreseeable conflicts of interest can become increasingly foreseeable wars with unforeseeably dreadful consequences. Relying on prosperity and more democracy in China to sort things out thus seems unwise. Two things need to be done.

First, the slow progress towards a border settlement needs to resume. The main onus here is on China. It has the territory it really wants and has maintained its claim to Arunachal Pradesh only as a bargaining chip. It has, after all, solved intractable boundary quarrels with Russia, Mongolia, Myanmar and Vietnam. Surely it cannot be so difficult to treat with India?

That points to a second, deeper need, one that it took Europe two world wars to come close to solving: emerging Asia’s lack of serious institutions to bolster such deals. A regional forum run by the Association of South-East Asian Nations is rendered toothless by China’s aversion to multilateral diplomacy. Like any bully, it prefers to pick off its antagonists one by one. It would be better if China and India—and Japan—could start building regional forums to channel their inevitable rivalries into collaboration and healthy competition.
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Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:19 am

I agree with the above article.

Boundary disputes are going to be secondary issues. In this age, potential conflicts will be triggered off by India & China wrangling over commercial & political issues. India and China are two strong exporters, and they are bound to wrestle for market share.

A recent example is the supply of fake medicines by Chinese companies with "Made in India" labels.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/b...e-in-India/articleshow/4633377.cms

http://www.knowabouthealth.com/china...drug-with-label-made-in-india/988/

These and other issues like disputes over patents, etc have more potential to sour relations between the two countries.
 
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Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:52 am

Quoting tu204 (Reply 20):
Last time they tried that at in 1969 at Damansky, they got pulverized. It was the Chineese regular army vs. a platoon of our Border Guards. A direct order from the Kremlin did not let the Russian regular army engage as that could spark a war, so it was basically the border guards fighting against wave after wave of Chineese infantry. And these guys were also conscripts, and now the quality of training in our army is going up, although quantity is decreasing. So I think that even conventionally, they would have a hard time getting anywhere.

The quality of the Chinese military is also going up. The Chinese military is way more professional unlike in 1969 when China was in the grips of the Cultural Revolution, and the quality of the equipment has improved dramatically. Educational requirements have sharply increased despite the Chinese military being a conscripted force (only a small portion of people eligible for conscription are actually drawn into service). It seems the Chinese have learned the lessons of the past few decades and from the observation of conflicts around the world.
 
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Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:28 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 6):
Assam boarders Tibet (which is also claimed by China) and Burma (Myanmar?). Assam has some oil and natueral gas reserves.

The state in question is arunachal pradesh - not Assam. Arunachal is claimed in its entirety by china. Also all of Assam's ONG reserves dried up a few years back most of India's ONG come from Bombay high and the narmada valley basin - both proximate to Bombay in the west.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 6):
but it could be done.

But probably wont be - the entire NE is afflicted by a 25 year long insurgency - and the chickens neck between Nepal and Bangladesh will make resupply next to impossible.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 7):
Are the Indian pilots much better trained than the Chinese?

Till the 1980's one could say yes for sure - now with a renewed Chinese emphasis on quality - that might change or India's marginally better training might not be able to offset significant Chinese numerical superiority....... especially given that the geography of the NE states is unfavourable to India (but is favourable to India as far as central India goes.)

Quoting comorin (Reply 10):
The Doomsday scenario is when China has to grow at a certain percentage to prevent civil unrest

China's population has more or less been stable over the last 20 years or so - demographic change within the stable total will happen. But India is far more at risk. By 2020 we will have a labour surplus of 47 million young people - add to insurgencies in the NE, Kashmir and the Naxal problem affecting the entire east and centre - Civil unrest and eventual political collapse are far more likely scenarios re India than they are re Pak or China.

Add to this by 2045 Bangladesh will be fully inundated... where do you think those 160 million radicalised folk are going to go?

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 11):
The Indian border isn't the really scary one; IMO, its the northern border with Russia, particularly along the Amur.
Quoting Lumberton (Reply 13):
Would Russia's leadership risk mutual assured destruction?
Quoting bikerthai (Reply 15):
shooting war between China and Vietnam over the Spratly is more likely.

Vietnam and Taiwan will be the first most visible signs of Chinese expansionism since they don't have nukes. and as bikerthai says - Spratly's are my first bet too.

Quoting comorin (Reply 14):
Let's hope that for a while China is more interested in economic growth versus expansionism.

The problem is that economic growth means more intense resource competition - as a general rule and aggressively expanding economy will require aggressive territorial expansion when most of those resources are controlled by ones adversary.

essentially expansionism is a sub-set of economic growth. That's why Japan started WW2 in the east remember? - access to Indonesian petrol and Chinese minerals

Quoting bikerthai (Reply 15):
India would be a tougher opponent.

No.... India so far has not decisively defeated a single opponent - even the oft quoted example of East Pakistan is not correct since West Pakistan remains India's biggest military headache and Bangladesh (formerly east Pakistan) has become India's biggest existential problem in a purely non military sense. Vietnam on the other hand thrashed the French, Americans and Chinese.

Quoting bikerthai (Reply 15):
How are the road/train network in western China vs. eastern India?

India has very good quantity lines - many nodes - well dispersed - short supply lengths,

China has excellent quality lines - but only 4 of those (2 roads and 1 rail plus the airlink) as far as tibet goes.

But as far as the NE goes the situation reverses completely. China has many short supply lines- India has only one main axis.

Quoting norcal (Reply 16):
Sadly I don't think China would care if they lost tens of million or even a hundred million of it's citizens. Their government simply doesn't value human life.

True in the past - perhaps not so anymore.

Quoting norcal (Reply 16):
I don't know about China, but India has awful trains

A train is a train is a train. Tanks and ammo will not complain of bad toilets and stinky fellow passengers when they are being transported.

Quoting A342 (Reply 17):
they are still buying Su-30s

No they cancelled the production license since they mastered the reverse engineering completely. It is now under arbitration.

Quoting A342 (Reply 17):
not about the technological one.

China outspends Russia 1500:1 on R&D on an annual basis. At some points the results will show.

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 18):
A China-India border quarrel could escalate into something ugly, but I believe it would stop short of nuclear war.

It will never happen - China's whole game plan is that India will collapse under the weight of its own contradictions and inertia - and china can just move in - no guns necessary.

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 18):
Most of us, myself included, felt it was aimed at Pakistan. Perhaps China looms just as large in their planning?

Traditionally Indians have been India's own worst enemy.

Quoting tu204 (Reply 20):
Last time they tried that at in 1969 at Damansky, they got pulverized.
Quoting tu204 (Reply 20):
wave after wave of Chineese infantry.

Actually it was a draw (68 chinese dead vs 58 russian dead - no territorial changes) and remember those chinese soldiers were also thoroughly untrained starry eyed students whose only "training" would have been reading Mao's little red book.

BTW i hope you realise Damansky has been ceded to china since? It is now called Zhenbao Island.

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 22):
First, the slow progress towards a border settlement needs to resume. The main onus here is on China. It has the territory it really wants and has maintained its claim to Arunachal Pradesh only as a bargaining chip. It has, after all, solved intractable boundary quarrels with Russia, Mongolia, Myanmar and Vietnam. Surely it cannot be so difficult to treat with India?

Stupid article

China doesn't want to treat with India because its whole game plan revolves around the fact that the Indian Union will disintegrate within the next 30 years or so. as fellow A.Netter Maxter stated in another thread the Chinese concept of time-lines is very different to what elected politicians with a 8 - 10 years term limit can understand.
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Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:54 am

Quoting Shmertspionem (Reply 25):
But India is far more at risk. By 2020 we will have a labour surplus of 47 million young people - add to insurgencies in the NE, Kashmir and the Naxal problem affecting the entire east and centre - Civil unrest and eventual political collapse are far more likely scenarios re India than they are re Pak or China.

I reckon everything East of the chicken's neck will be the first to go. I remember flying over that part of the world in '71 thinking then that it wouldn't take much to put the squeeze on that artificial construct. That was between the outlandish reports of the spectacular successes of the IAF and equally overblown exploits of the IN in the Deccan Herald... All the while the masses of the great unwashed lapping it up greedily.
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Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:05 pm

China is still occupying land taken during the last Sino-India war

Quoting ThePointblank (Reply 24):
The quality of the Chinese military is also going up. The Chinese military is way more professional unlike in 1969 when China was in the grips of the Cultural Revolution, and the quality of the equipment has improved dramatically.

Which made no difference, they still took the majority of the terriroty that they wanted, held it, then declared their cease fire. Often time professionalism is not as important as will, desire and quantity.
 
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Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:32 pm

Quoting Shmertspionem (Reply 25):
Actually it was a draw (68 chinese dead vs 58 russian dead - no territorial changes) and remember those chinese soldiers were also thoroughly untrained starry eyed students whose only "training" would have been reading Mao's little red book.

BTW i hope you realise Damansky has been ceded to china since? It is now called Zhenbao Island.

Yes, however their forces outnumbered ours many times over because it was only the Border Guards vs. the Chineese. And the ammount of casualties on the Chineese side is disputed.
Damansky was ceded not because China is so great, it was actually going to be ceded back in the 60's until talks were broken off. It was only ceded now because the previous demarcation of the border was heavily unfair and was not demarkated based on international law and the island is useless anyways. It is uninhabitable.
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Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:36 am

Quoting tu204 (Reply 28):
the border was heavily unfair

Uh -oh dangerous remark. All the treaties from Khiakhta in 1727 onwards were unfair. If you use "unfair" as a measure you would have to cede everything from Irkutsk to Vladivostok to Komsomolsk Na Amur to China.

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RE: India Beefs Up Air Defenses On Chinese Border

Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:25 pm

More information. Where's the love?
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4759294&c=ASI&s=TOP

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India suspended defense exchanges with China Aug. 27 after Beijing refused a visa to an Indian army general from the Kashmir region, according to sources in the Indian defense ministry. In retaliation, New Delhi has refused visas to Chinese army officers, according to Indian foreign ministry sources.
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The defense ministry has been concerned over the Chinese military buildup, a senior ministry official said.

India has stationed more multirole nuclear-capable Russian-built Su-30MKi aircraft near the border, and is improving roads and airbases in the region.
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RE: India Beefs Up Air Defenses On Chinese Border

Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:02 pm

Update. Interesting that they found it necessary to advertise that the SU-30MKI is "nuclear-capable".

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4997541&c=ASI&s=AIR

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The Indian Air Force has awarded the airfield infrastructure modernization project to local company Tata Power, which will upgrade 30 airfields at a cost of $282 million.

A second phase of airfield upgrades is also under consideration, a senior Air Force official said.

Last year, the Air Force deployed nuclear-capable Sukhoi 30MKI fighter aircraft at Daulat Begh Oldhi, eight kilometers from the Sino-Indian border in Jammu and Kashmir, and at other airbases in the northeast.
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