The Military Anniversary parade, goes all out on for the Air Force every 5 years...
All 6 Su-27s and all 6 Su-30s participated, involving the Russian delivery team and local civil aircraft engineers on standby to cover for the 12 Sukhois...
The current batch of 3 27SKMs and 3 30MKKs were delivered knock-ed down, and put to the air very quickly.
There's a joint evaluation team from the factory and our Air Force to cover for them for the next 12 months, to revamp the support system for the Sukhois, and prevent them from becoming hangar queens like a few years ago.
A lot of work has been done by the air force to improve safety and dispatch reliability, which was at it's poorest 2 years ago where reportedly >50% of the combat fleet and >25% of the transport fleet became hangar queens.
The Defence Secretary is impressed with the efforts put in and with the results (and I don't think he's been put up for a real "spin" on another type before) that he wants more of these!
As to the parade... you can find the pics here:
Anyways, backto the topic...
Logistics, procurement (airframe, parts and weapon) glitches have been fixed in the past, and the military spending budget is no longer solely on an annual and headcount basis, but is being changed to "better cater for long term requirements", but I hear our parliament is still bitching about it, so the president put in a decree to allow that pending the new military budget act to be decided.
180 Flankers??? Geez, where on earth would they park them?????
And yes, I do wonder too, do we need that much? Heck, we still need to finance and order our fast jet and light combat aircraft (likely be the KT
-50 or Yak-130, or split)... There's no doubt that we'd like to get more Flankers, and we're been asking for approval for newer F-16s... but... 180???? Geeezz!!!!
|Quoting cpd (Reply 5):|
Not in my recent memory, but there was that intervention in Timor Leste that I think caused some rather major headaches for Indonesia. It wouldn't surprise me if there were a few people high up that are still quite annoyed by that.
Well, us and Timor Leste are in good terms (actually, better than the days when we ruled over them!)... but how good is good, is a relative thing.
|Quoting ebj1248650 (Reply 4):|
Has there been animosity between those two nations that would justify the mutual defense expansion?
RAAF F-18s and C-130s, and even the PC
-9s have been passing through our airspace via Bali to go between Aussie to Singapore, Thailand and Malaysia, on a frequent and regular basis.
|Quoting cpd (Reply 14):|
Because it's just not a very good idea for a number of reasons that should be quite obvious. For the same reason we shouldn't have given training to their special forces (who then terrorised innocent people). The country also has huge problems with insurgency from groups like JI - so it should get those under control first.
|Quoting JTR (Reply 25):|
Can the Indonesians really afford this? The article says the Indonesians want 40% production share and technology transfer.
Can we afford it? If our economy continues to grow like in the past few years (even when the world was contracting), yes, but not the whole 180!!!! The cuts to fuel subsidies freed up a heck of a lot of money that we can't catch up.
Only Knaapo & Irtkut as well as KAe are willing to offer technology transfers... Our aircraft manufacturing plant have settled down since the monetary crisis in 97-2000 to produce low numbers of C-212s, CN235s, as well as components and parts for Boeing, Lockheed Martin and EADS, and they finally realized that to make a "dream project" like the N250 and N2130, a lot have changed in 15 years! So, a lot of focus by IAe is being put to component manufacturing and maintenance/parts support (more money for less investment, albeit less glamorous, which peeves off the nostalgic types).
|Quoting ptrjong (Reply 26):|
I'm told the few Flankers they already have are hangar queens.
Up to 2008, they were... Basically the procurement had been grossly delayed for years because of too many trying to meddle in, and also, thanks to the annual budget method for the military, we were lucky the whole of our air force weren't grounded (and the past generals found it easier to get the funding approved by parliament to by flashy new cars instead)... after a few crashes, the govt. said, "somethings need to be fixed and changed!"
180??? Geez, am still shaking my head.
I know our air defence coverage need about 150 combat aircraft, but with the Sukhoi and it's range the number drops to about 100 combat aircraft only... that's only to cover the "black holes within", with no sustainable air defence capability should we embark on an offensive campaign.
Anti-Malaysian sentiments are quite high in the Parliament, I guess the government thinks it's a good idea to use it to boost our spending, up to a level short of having a real and sustainable offensive capability... as the parliament have been stalling the new military spending act and prefer to rant about petty disputes with Malaysia and call for war... I guess they want a piece of the war fund in their own pockets... and the parliament is not popular at all! The government (who thinks the parliament spewing anti-Malaysia rants as being "attention and vote whores) enjoys higher approval ratings than the parliament (put in the government factions and the opposition combined).
And no, we will not get Chinese made Flankers... previous "procurement generals" have been "removed/retired" for shortlisting a revamped MiG-21 trainer for our Advanced Jet Trainer/Light Combat Aircraft competition... M-346, Mig-AT, Yak-130, the Chinese Yak-130 clone known as the L-15, the Korean KT
-50, a "super Hawk-100" and the L-159 were all submitted... the Guizhou JL
-9 (that revamped Mig-21) was to be a no-contest loser... When it was about to be put into the short-list, everyone screamed! Even the L-15 we hear has not made the short list... KT
-50 and Yak-130 are the likely winners... and that'll dictate which future types are going to be procured.
Next on the target list is the transport fleet. Current discussions within the procurement committee covers more CN-235s, or IAe making it's own C-295 version, E-390, or more C-130s... that one, still has a long way to go...