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Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:11 am

Considering what the CAF had to go through to get Fifi back in the air, and the delays that the Doc crew have so far experienced, do you think Doc will actually ever fly? I think it would be absolutely awesome if it did, but as always, with enough money you can do anything, and the project isn't getting any cheaper. Whats the current status? Last I heard, they were waiting on a hanger opening.

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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:16 am

I would love to see that bird in the air. History!
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:24 am

One of the issues with flying the old metal is the aging of the pilot group that has any kind of experience in the airplanes.
The Airline History Museum in Kansas City is on the verge of getting the TWA Connie airworthy, but the retired pilots who used to fly it are getting up there, and some previously involved don't have any interest flying it anymore.

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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:30 am

But surely, younger pilots could be trained. Is this not possible, and what would this require?
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:49 pm

Surely the CAF has a B-29 instructor/examiner that could get some pilots spun up for Doc. As for Doc itself I think it's only a matter of time and money before she flies...
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:02 am

Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 2):
The Airline History Museum in Kansas City is on the verge of getting the TWA Connie airworthy, but the retired pilots who used to fly it are getting up there, and some previously involved don't have any interest flying it anymore.

There is another Connie that is airworthy and flies - I'm sure they can arrange some sort of training/instruction?

It'll be nice to see another B-29 take to the skies again too.   I'd certainly like to photograph one in the air.  
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:03 pm

Maybe they could visit Russia and look for some old TU-4 people.
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:19 pm

I thought 'Doc' had her engines mounted again? The pic g38 linked to shows her with the engines, cowlings, and wing attachments all removed and faired over with sheet metal.

Shouldn't be hard to getting pilots qualified to fly her when she is ready.
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:57 am

Looks like some progress has been made. A group called Docs Friends has taken on the restoration project...

http://www.b-29doc.com/index.php
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:01 am

Regarding pilots, I'd think that Boeing would be able to provide some flight instruction, albeit probably not pilots who ever flew a B-29. They designed and built it, so it makes sense, right?

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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:24 am

Well the fact that the website has recent updates is a good sign.
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:53 pm

It seems Doc is getting some needed funding to restart her restoration.

http://www.b-29doc.com/news.php

I saw FiFi flying a few years ago here in Fort Worth, truly an amazing site.
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:18 pm

Quoting g38 (Reply 3):
But surely, younger pilots could be trained. Is this not possible, and what would this require?

The bottleneck seems to be not to be based on pilots but on qualified flight engineers. Those old piston prop liners kept the F/E quite busy.

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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:50 pm

What happened to the B-29 that Boeing was restoring to flying condition out in Seattle?
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:55 am

When I flew the C/EC121 (USAF Super Connie) in the 1970s , we only had a 50-50 chance of getting an engine to 100 hours. Both aircraft used variants of the Wright 3350. "If God had intended the Connie to operate on four engines, he would have given her five."

At the time USAF no longer re-built the big radials. We used civilian contractors.

Seems the age, rebuilding and reliability of these engines would be huge obstacle. I am afraid their time is passing.   
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:15 pm

Quoting taxpilot (Reply 14):
At the time USAF no longer re-built the big radials. We used civilian contractors.

Seems the age, rebuilding and reliability of these engines would be huge obstacle. I am afraid their time is passing.

I'm afraid you are right. There are fewer and fewer of these companies, that are FAA certified, that can rebuild big radial engines.
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:52 pm

Doc is apparently getting the hybrid 3350 - same as FiFi(?)

http://www.b-29doc.com/news.php
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:36 am

WOW! Amazing.

I hope this project succedes.
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:51 pm

I should suppose that flight crew and maintenance training would one of the more minor worries (we won WWII with teenagers and twenty-somethings in the warbird front offices, no?), plus current CAF guys could be of great assistance.

Dollars large will be the real factor for success. The old saying "we can rebuild ANYTHING with an unlimited checkbook and a data plate" will probably ring true.

I wish them all success. Can you imagine seeing her formating with "FIFI", a couple of B-24s and B-17s. Now THAT would bring chills. best regards...jack

P.S. Anyone up to speed with Kermit Weeks' B-29 resto?
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:03 pm

Goal for Doc: Oshkosh 2014!

"And that flight could come next year, according to some of the volunteer crew working to refurbish Doc in a borrowed Wichita hangar. Jeff Turner, chairman of the non­profit group Doc's Friends, said the goal of flying Doc to Oshkosh in 2014 is in sight, but as much as $2 million more needs to be raised to make it happen.



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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:05 pm

Doc gets nacelles & props...

https://www.facebook.com/#!/DocsFriends?hc_location=stream
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:20 pm

How cool would a flyby be with both Doc & Fifi be   
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:10 pm

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 21):


Goal for Doc is to get her to Oshkosh next year. I haven't seen FiFis schedule for next year but Oshkosh would seem to be a good bet for a meet.
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:54 pm

Doc gets some tail feathers..

https://www.facebook.com/#!/DocsFriends
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Tue May 13, 2014 9:14 pm

Well maybe Oshkosh in 2015... 

We've waited this long...

http://youtu.be/WusXr33sRjQ
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Fri May 16, 2014 3:28 am

I came across a video of a flight in "Fifi" and it looked like the pilot was using an iPad for his maps. There's something so wrong about using modern electronics in a classic warbird - at least in my opinion.

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Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:11 pm

New video from Docs Friends:

http://youtu.be/Cjde12KPGog
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:40 pm

I understand, with the flaps now installed, Doc is structurally complete....

http://youtu.be/wKD8eGyeMDw
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:21 pm

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 25):
There's something so wrong about using modern electronics in a classic warbird - at least in my opinion.

Well unfortunately there aren't a lot of four-course radio ranges to fly these days
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:22 am

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 21):
How cool would a flyby be with both Doc & Fifi be

Those Lancaster guys in the UK will have nothin' on us!   

Thinkin' they're so hot 'cause they got 2 Lancs now. Pah I say!
 
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Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:13 pm

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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:37 am

The is kind of a silly comment from the atricle.

Quote:
Without today’s avionics that includes a Global Positioning System, it would be impossible to fly “unless you want to hire a navigator with an arm full of maps,” Norman said.
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Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:06 pm

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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:52 pm

Woot, Woot!!

Video of rollout here:

http://youtu.be/xlsny7UBv2g
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:17 pm

Very cool. I've been lucky enough to see Fifi fly and crawl through her, would be amazing to see Doc flying in person. I wish them well!
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:21 am

Roll out video from Docs Friends:

http://youtu.be/0VaSeXFnO5A
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:14 pm

Quoting zanl188 (Reply 36):
Roll out video from Docs Friends:http://youtu.be/0VaSeXFnO5A

According to AW&ST, "Doc" will fly later this year, possibly this summer. Taxi test will begin soon.

USAAF tail number #45-69972, I don't see her FAA registration tail # on her yet.

Here are pictures and the story:

http://aviationweek.com/bca/restored...cle_5#slide-0-field_images-1278221
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:03 am

The polished aluminum looks awesome! Can't wait to see her fly.
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:21 pm

Number 3 prop turning... no ignition though...

http://youtu.be/NQUUSNd1EuA
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:34 am

Looking good!

My only experience seeing a B-29 in person was seeing Enola Gay at IAD. Massively impressive.

Huge props (no pun intended) to all the men and women who volunteered their time and expertise to preserve a piece of history in a flying state, allowing us younger generations to get a first hand encounter with her. Seeing a Lancaster, Spitfire, P-51 or any of those old war birds really brings it a lot closer to home than looking at old pictures and images.

Hearing my grandfather's stories of air raids and all the other horrors of WWII, and then actually seeing and hearing those same aircraft types really brings it closer to home.

Again, huge respect to all of those who have served, are serving, and those that have paid the ultimate price.
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:45 pm

So, any word on 1st flight?

Also, are they still planning on Doc attending Oshkosh 2015?
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:48 pm

Getting closer...

Fuel system tests...

http://youtu.be/4NFyNwXXr4E
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Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:22 pm

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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:22 pm

Quoting zanl188 (Reply 44):
More news on Doc...

Looking forward to seeing Fifi and Doc hanging out together at Oshkosh 2016   
 
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:08 pm

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 45):
Looking forward to seeing Fifi and Doc hanging out together at Oshkosh 2016

I said the same thing for Oshkosh 2014 & 2015! ..... When it happens, it happens I guess....
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:18 pm

Doc update....

Should be doing taxi tests within the next 4 to 8 weeks....

http://youtu.be/F9_XG025lIo
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:14 pm

First engine start tomorrow. Webcast at b29doc.com
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RE: Will Doc (B-29) Ever Fly?

Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:38 pm

Actually, the website is b-29doc.com

And the website says the engine startup with a success this morning,

they say they'll post video later today

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