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Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:40 pm

How can you track which one is which if at all possible ?
 
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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:42 pm

Both VC-25s fly on every mission involving the President. The one that the president is on is the one following.
 
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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:43 pm

Quoting rw774477 (Thread starter):

Air Force One is not a specific aircraft it is the call sign of the POUS and any USAF aircraft he is flying on.
 
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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:46 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 1):
Both VC-25s fly on every mission involving the President.

What do you mean by that? Because I've seen a single ship here at LAX a zillion times when or Bush came in.

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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:55 pm

Quoting BN747 (Reply 3):
What do you mean by that? Because I've seen a single ship here at LAX a zillion times when or Bush came in.

Maybe it's only when he flies internationally, or maybe the other one was around but not parked at the same place. But according to the National Geographic special on Air Force One, both planes fly every mission, with one sort of blazing the trail for the other.
 
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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:57 pm

Quoting BN747 (Reply 3):
What do you mean by that? Because I've seen a single ship here at LAX a zillion times when or Bush came in



The other aircraft might have been at March AFB or something but typically they do travel with two aircraft in case of maintenance issues with one. It is often said that Air Force One is the safest place for the POTUS to be so it is important that they always have one available for him to get on one at a moments notice.

Another fun fact, I am not sure if this is still the case but it has been the case that an E-4B always travels with POTUS in case of a nuclear war, as that is the command plane for that senario. So that means that anytime POTUS travels there is atleast a C-5 with his cars, and two or three 747s. That is quite a bit of hardware to fly for one person.
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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:57 pm

no doubt he will take this one

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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:07 pm

Quoting rw774477 (Thread starter):
How can you track which one is which if at all possible ?

I could tell you, but then I'd have to shoot you.  

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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:52 pm

The 89th schedules which airplane is primary and which is back-up. The back-up always lands somewhere else, but within about 60 minutes flying time of the primary airplane.

So if he is flying today on a VC-25A, both 28000 and 29000 are in use.
 
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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:00 pm

POTUS doesn't ALWAYS travel with both 747s, nor does he ALWAYS have the E-4 in tow.

Probably best to stay away from absolutes.... Far too many myths involving these aircraft...
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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:52 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 1):

I do not believe this is true. Both VC fly on every overseas mission, but domestically I have seen different.

Last year AF1 arrived at SFO and had a mechanical issue. Overnight a C-32 was brought in as a back-up. The VC flying Obama was repaired overnight and left with no problems. But there was no sight of the other VC aircraft.
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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:58 am

28000 was at LAX today.

As far as back ups, I can tell you that during Clinton's presidency they had a mechanical issue here in LAX, and the 2nd aircraft arrived up from San Diego (Miramar I believe it was) overnight.

Also during the 90s, I recall one of the aircraft during an Australia visit suffered a bid strike, and returned a few days later on its own after an engine change via LAX.
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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:12 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 11):
Also during the 90s, I recall one of the aircraft during an Australia visit suffered a bid strike, and returned a few days later on its own after an engine change via LAX.

OMG, that is Saudi type excessive. But then again, it is the US military...
 
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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:49 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 11):
bid strike

What's a 'bid' strike?

One VC-25A had a maintenance issue on a President Bush Asian trip, he went onto the next meeting using a C-32A as Air Force-1, arriving on-schedule for his meeting. IIRC, the issue with the VC-25 was a tire and brake issue, but they fly with these types of spare parts. It was repaired and President Bush used the VC-25A for his next leg on that trip.
 
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RE: Which Air Force ONE Is Being Used BY Obama Today

Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:36 am

Bird strike obviously.

Trip I mentioned was in 1996 - Both VC-25s were down in Australia.

When the President and his entourage flew in to Sydney late on Tuesday, they needed two United States Air Force 747s and a giant C5 Galaxy transport plane to carry all the people and equipment that go with a presidential stop-over.
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