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Looking For Info On The Boeing Skyfox

Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:33 pm

I was wondering if the collective expertise had any knowledge of the Boeing Skyfox program.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Skyfox



I'm rather fascinated by the concept of the 'conversion kit' that the former lockheed engineers who formed 'Skyfox Corp' came up with. According to the only info I can find, the concept was to re-engine and heavily modify existing Lockheed T-33 airframes into a rather sexy jet trainer/ground attack aircraft - to me it looks sort of like an Me262 with tail-mounted engines.

The business model was based on the fact that surplus T-33s were (and maybe still are) quite plentiful, and that by heavily modifying the existing T-33 airframe it was possible to engineer an essentially all-new airplane without having to design and build one from scratch, allowing a capable trainer to be built for half the cost of a new equivalent.

Boeing was impressed with the idea enough to buy the rights to the program, and there was interest from the Portugese and US airforce, but the program seemed to fizzle out... So this is another airplane to put in the book of 'could have been awesome' failed projects.

If anybody out there has any additional info about what went on with the Skyfox program I'd love to hear your stories, but also what other surplus airframes could benefit from a modification kit like what was done with Skyfox?
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Looking For Info On The Boeing Skyfox

Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:57 pm

Hey, never heard about that airplane.

And i really like it!


Any more details from somebody?

 
 
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Looking For Info On The Boeing Skyfox

Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:43 am

There are a few photos of it in the db:

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Looks like a cross between a Blackbird and an A-10  (and by that I mean it looks great, but IMHO civilian colors suit it better).
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Looking For Info On The Boeing Skyfox

Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:57 pm

Project was shut down because of lack of customers.
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Looking For Info On The Boeing Skyfox

Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:00 pm

Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 2):
ooks like a cross between a Blackbird and an A-10 (and by that I mean it looks great, but IMHO civilian colors suit it better).

For some reason it reminds me of a cross between an Me-262 and an A-10, especially in that second picture you have there.
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Looking For Info On The Boeing Skyfox

Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:12 pm

A light twin-jet such as this could have made a great COIN aircraft, although with a MTOW of 20,000lb, less than half of an A-10, it probably would have been limited to light guns and rockets.

But then, there are air forces who would put such as aircraft to great effect, could have been a great value export-aircraft, I puzzle at 'lack of customers'... the IA63 Pampa, Dassault Alphajet and AMX were all coming into service at or after the time this was developed, all in a similar weight and performance category, but all would have been more expensive than the Skyfox, but it wasn't to be...
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Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:57 pm

Thats a good looking airplane.

It's one hell of a conversion, with the raised tail I'm really struggling to see any hint of the T-33, even the stance of it is different, as if they've lengthened the front undercarriage too.
 
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Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:49 pm

Quoting Wingscrubber (Thread starter):

The business model was based on the fact that surplus T-33s were (and maybe still are) quite plentiful, and that by heavily modifying the existing T-33 airframe it was possible to engineer an essentially all-new airplane without having to design and build one from scratch,

The business case might have been a lot better now, with plenty of competitors proposing clean-sheet business jets, but falling along the wayside after investors lose interest. It would have made an awesome owner-pilot ride!
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Looking For Info On The Boeing Skyfox

Fri May 06, 2011 4:38 pm

The aircraft did a cameo on an episode of "Airwolf"

It was supposed to be some new fancy air force fighter and the pilot was suffering from the manchurian canidate syndrome from nam was going to steal it and give it the soviets.

Needless to say String and Dominic prevented that from happening.
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Fri May 06, 2011 5:28 pm

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Photo © Darrell Crosby




Believe it or not this is the same aircraft. I wonder if there is a single part on the aircraft that was NOT modified.

Mod edit: Please use the thumbnail feature for posting photos from the database instead of the IMG code.

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RE: Looking For Info On The Boeing Skyfox

Sat May 07, 2011 10:07 pm

That thing looked like a good candidate for chronic tailstrikes...
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