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Airbus C295 AEW

Wed May 18, 2011 9:31 pm

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...lifts-veil-on-c-295-aew-study.html


Airbus is studying an AEW version of the C295 and already flight-tested a dummy rotodome. (see picture 1)

Also winglets are under study, which look really impressive on the C295. (see picture 2)


The rotodome design could also used for future A319 and A320 AEW versions.
 
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RE: Airbus C295 AEW

Thu May 19, 2011 1:42 pm

Winglets would mask some areas to the radar. That is why the Wedgetail doesn't have them.

Quoting 328JET (Thread starter):
The rotodome design could also used for future A319 and A320 AEW versions.

The 'rotodome' concept is old and heavy technology, which is why Boeing and NG went with the 'tophat' system and the new IAF G-550 AWACS is not using the rotodome system.

The AEW market is currently flooded with different designs from the E-767 to the Saab designs, only yhtr B-707/E-3 models are no longer offered. Producing an A-319/-320-/C-295-AEW will only make the market more crowded with different airplanes and a relitively small market of about 120 airplanes, worldwide. Most of those airplanes are already flying Boeing models
 
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RE: Airbus C295 AEW

Thu May 19, 2011 4:07 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):

The 'rotodome' concept is old and heavy technology, which is why Boeing and NG went with the 'tophat' system and the new IAF G-550 AWACS is not using the rotodome system.

And yet NG and the US Navy have seen it fit to move farther out into the future with the very same configuration.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...look-pretty-but-packs-big-new.html

http://www.as.northropgrumman.com/pr...eye/assets/E-2D_Cutaway_Poster.pdf
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RE: Airbus C295 AEW

Thu May 19, 2011 9:17 pm

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 2):
And yet NG and the US Navy have seen it fit to move farther out into the future with the very same configuration.....

I imagine because that is an update of an existing platform that already uses a rotodome.  
 
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RE: Airbus C295 AEW

Fri May 20, 2011 8:05 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
The 'rotodome' concept is old and heavy technology

It is a study by Airbus, so maybe it is not the latest configuration.
 
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RE: Airbus C295 AEW

Sun May 22, 2011 10:53 am

Quoting 328JET (Reply 4):
It is a study by Airbus, so maybe it is not the latest configuration.

I hope EADS takes into consideration just how many AEW systems are currently offered, and what percentage of this small market they plan to capture.
 
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RE: Airbus C295 AEW

Sun May 22, 2011 11:13 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
I hope EADS takes into consideration just how many AEW systems are currently offered, and what percentage of this small market they plan to capture

... all depends on the development costs, and if one or two customers are ok to cover them... well why not.
It's much like the A319 maritime patrol aircraft, the design study didn't cost a lot to do, and they can quite happily wait for a customer to come up...
 
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RE: Airbus C295 AEW

Mon May 23, 2011 3:17 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
I hope EADS takes into consideration just how many AEW systems are currently offered, and what percentage of this small market they plan to capture

That is the same situation at all fighter contests in the moment:

F16, F15, F18, JSF, Gripen NG, Rafale, Typhoon and the russian fighters...

Every supplier gets a relative small percentage, but none of them would not offer...
 
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RE: Airbus C295 AEW

Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:23 am

 
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RE: Airbus C295 AEW

Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:49 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
I hope EADS takes into consideration just how many AEW systems are currently offered, and what percentage of this small market they plan to capture.

Yeah, thats how business evolve and earn money. Just let the others have what they historically had. Don't improve to win market share with new products.

Thats exactly why Emirates failed so miserably. They tried hard to gain marketshare and improve service and network. But as we all see, they failed because the market is so small und already occupied...

...or not?!
 
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RE: Airbus C295 AEW

Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:02 pm

What advantage does the C295 platform have over the G550, 737, or E-2?
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RE: Airbus C295 AEW

Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:23 am

Quoting greaser (Reply 10):
What advantage does the C295 platform have over the G550, 737, or E-2?

It is a much cheaper platform and will fulfill most requirements as well.

http://www.airbusmilitary.com/Surveillance/FITS.aspx


Also the C295AEW it could be operated in a mixed fleet consisting of the following types very cheap:

CN235 transporter
CN325MPA
C295 transporter
C295 AEW
C295MPA

I hope my country takes a look at it.

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