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Boeing Pulse Jet Vertical Take-off Concept

Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:12 pm

ran into the attached story and video

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/th...ideo-boeings-all-new-advanced.html

while the concept is interesting looking at the number of pulse jets required per plane, I wonder how efficient it would be for moving large amounts of materials and equipment... plus with the range projected would it have any value (300 NM and 540 NM)?
 
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RE: Boeing Pulse Jet Vertical Take-off Concept

Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:34 am

Have you seen the movie Avatar  . But in all honesty, I often wonder what will be gracing our skies 20-30 years from now. Mind you, I think Boeing has its hands full answering to the 320NEO.  
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RE: Boeing Pulse Jet Vertical Take-off Concept

Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:58 pm

Quoting kanban (Thread starter):
would it have any value (300 NM and 540 NM)?

Theater airlift. This was one of the concept Boeing included as part of the future theater airlift a few years back.
More capacity than a V-22.

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RE: Boeing Pulse Jet Vertical Take-off Concept

Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:59 pm

Quoting FoxTwo (Reply 1):
Mind you, I think Boeing has its hands full answering to the 320NEO.

That is BCA that is answering the A-320NEO. BDS works just on military applications, of which this could be one, they have enough engineers to bring this to a prototype concept. This type of pulse-jet system looks to have significant tactical advantages over hilos and MV/CV-22s. Since the model looks like a conventional airplane (sort of), it is probibly CTOL as well as VTOL capable, thus saving fuel for the VTOL operations and take-off/land on a convential runway at the MOB.

Quoting kanban (Thread starter):
plus with the range projected would it have any value (300 NM and 540 NM)?

With most current helio ops today, they are working on much shorter ranges than that. For example a USMC amphibious operations, the LPDs, ect. are just 25 to 50 nm off-shore, and the hilos, LCACs, and MV-22s just shuttle men and equipment that far, plus maybe up to a few miles ashore.
 
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RE: Boeing Pulse Jet Vertical Take-off Concept

Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:16 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
With most current helio ops today, they are working on much shorter ranges than that.

don't they pack most of them in larger planes to get to the theater (Army anyway) this looks to large to do the same... and how many hops required to get from the US to Japan or Algeria? they do mention no mid point refueling however I guess that does not preclude the capability
 
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RE: Boeing Pulse Jet Vertical Take-off Concept

Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:07 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
That is BCA that is answering the A-320NEO. BDS works just on military applications, of which this could be one, they have enough engineers to bring this to a prototype concept.

Depending on which BDS you are referring. It is relatively easy to transfer Engineers from BDS to BCA in the Puget Sound area. So any surplus BDS engineering here would be "sucked" into the tanker or the 737 program.

C-17 (Anaheim) BDS folks would probably be responsible for this plane. Don't know if they have sufficient engineering down there to do the work. They would be less likely be impacted by the Commercial "job sucking sound" though not immune.

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RE: Boeing Pulse Jet Vertical Take-off Concept

Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:43 pm

Quoting bikerthai (Reply 5):
They would be less likely be impacted by the Commercial "job sucking sound"

what a switch... for years the "job sucking sound" was the military side sucking the cream of the commercial team.. (B-2, F-22, etc)

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