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B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:48 am

Hello all,

Tried searching the forum but didn't find quite what I was looking for. Most of the folks reading this forum know the B52 was used extensively during the Vietnam war. Each jet could carry something like 80 bombs in its bomb bay. My question is how long did it take the ordnance crews in Thailand and Guam to fully re-load a B52 bomb bay in preparation for its next sortie? I guess It can be safely assumed that during the famous "Arc Light" , "Rolling Thunder" and "Linebacker" bombing campaigns that re-arming B52's with bombs was a 25-hour a day, 8 day a week ordeal. The B52's based on Guam had to then fly for hours to traverse the 2,800 mile journey to Vietnam, just to spend 60 seconds or so to drop its bombs, then head for home.

So, again, in a nutshell, how long did it take to fully re-arm a B52 for a bomb run during the Vietnam war?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

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RE: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:41 am

The actual loading of the B-52D bomb bays was simplified with the use of bomb clips. Only the pylons required manual loading of individual bombs. As for how long it took, I don't know.

Here's links to a couple small photos of the clips.

http://www.306thbw.org/306thscrpbk/images/SEA6B52BombLoad.jpg

http://www.306thbw.org/306thscrpbk/images/SEP99GUAM05.jpg

http://www.306thbw.org/306thscrpbk/Images/SEP99GUAM07.jpg

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RE: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:09 pm

Only the B-52D, with the 'Big Belly' mod could carry 80 Mk. 84s 500 lb bombs in clips in the internal bomb bay. They also carried an additional 24 bombs on the wing pylons, 12 on each side. The first model B-52 that was used was the B-52F, which carried 27 bombs internally and 24 on wing pylons, like the B-52D. The B-52G was also used, flying from Guam and it could carry only 27 bombs internally and no externals. If the anti-personnel fuze was used, the bomb loads were reduced, as the fuze was on a 3' long fuze extension.

The B-52D usually carried only 500 lb Mk.84s, but could carry the 750 lb Mk. 82 internally, but not externally. The Mk. 82 750s were only loaded on the B-52Ds in Thailand, not in Guam, and iot carried about 60 of them internally.

The B-52F could carry either a full load of 51 bombs of Mk. 82 (750) or Mk. 84 (500) both internally (27) and externally (24).

The B-52G normally only carried 27 Mk. 82 750 lb bombs, all internally. It could be used to carry 27 Mk. 82 500 lb bombs, and sometimes did. But it was the only model that carried 27 internally mounted 'bull $h!t' bombs, that were boxes (that burst open before hitting the ground) filled with US propogander, portable radios that only picked up US radio broadcasts, and fake North Vietnamese money. These were intended to be pick-up and used by the civilians of North Vietnam.

The B-52Fs were used as an interium bomber while the B-52Ds were getting the big belly mod and training the ground and air crews. I believe the B-52Fs left Guam around 1968 or 1969 and all went to Castle AFB, CA (MER) for flight train ing or to AMARC for storage.
 
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RE: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:44 am

One night in November of 1968 a fully loaded B-52D aborted its takeoff from Kadena AFB caught fire and burned. One of my room mates woke up when he thought someone was setting off firecrackers. He looked out the window and realized it was a lot more than firecrackers. We watch for several hours as its load of 108, 500 pound bombs exploded one after another. The next morning we could not get to our hangar because they said there were still live bombs around.
 
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RE: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:12 am

Quoting ILS28Rite (Thread starter):
The B52's based on Guam had to then fly for hours to traverse the 2,800 mile journey to Vietnam, just to spend 60 seconds or so to drop its bombs, then head for home.

My uncle was actually a B52G commander based out of Andersen. Sadly, he was shot down and perished on the first night of LB2. From what I've read, there's a military museum in Hanoi that has pieces of the wreckage of his plane on display as a monument.  
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RE: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:41 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
The B-52D usually carried only 500 lb Mk.84s, but could carry the 750 lb Mk. 82

The 750s should have been Mk117s
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Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:06 pm

I was at Okinawa when the b-52 aborted take off and blew up. I was on crash recovery and went thru the wreckage. The real story was kept secret and they put out a story that the crew aborted to keep a the wreck on base and gave the crew medals..... The real story is that the crew was drunk, as was often the case, and the co pilot decided he did not want to go and pulled the throttles back half way down the run way. The plane rolled into the approach lights and caught fire killing the crew chief and two air police. Many of the 108 500lb bombs cooked off and blew a hole in the ground you could put a shopping center in. The only parts recognisable the next day was the wheels and oxygen bottles. A real mess. there were bombs and parts of bombs spread out for half a mile. The crew escaped before the fire took hold.
 
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:09 am

As far as I was aware, the Mk.82 was 500lb, Mk.83 1000lb, and Mk84 2000lb, the 750lb ordnance as noted was a Mk.117, but then I'm only an enthusiast with no personal experience!
 
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Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:13 am

kc135topboom wrote:
The B-52D usually carried only 500 lb Mk.84s, but could carry the 750 lb Mk. 82 internally, but not externally.

Mk. 82s are 500 lbs. The Mk. 84 is a 2000 lb. bomb.
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:23 am

I was a high school senior when we moved to Guam in 1965. We lived in Agana which was about half way down the island from Anderson AFB, about 15 miles. Apra Harbor, where the bombs arrived by ship, was further south. Many times in the early morning while riding the bus to JFK High School I would look out the window and see a flat-bed truck loaded with 500 pound bombs headed north to the air base. The loaded B-52's would take off in sets of 3, one after another. Then there would be a pause while the black smoke cleared from the runway. If I woke in the middle of the night and heard them taking off I knew that by the middle of the afternoon they would be returning one at a time, about 5 minutes apart at the end of their 12 hour mission. You could spot then a long way off and watch the black spec grow into the "big ugly fella" (I think I left out the other "F" word in BUFF). They usually sent out about 30 ships on a raid. They didn't lose a plane during the 20 months I was on the island, but in the summer of '67 after I'd gone off to Germany Gen. William Crumm, the base commander, was killed in a mid-air collision over the South China Sea. He was a the first general officer to be killed during the Viet Nam war. As a student I was able to visit Anderson and tour the flight line. The highlight was a visit to a B-52 and a chat with the crew. I never did get up into the cockpit because we were so engrossed talking to the ground crew, standing with our heads in the cavernous bomb bay.
 
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:16 pm

If necessary could the B52s that flew missions over Vietnam be quickly converted back to carrying nuclear weapons or would this have a been a long complicated process?
 
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Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:07 am

ILS28Rite wrote:
re-arming B52's with bombs was a 25-hour a day, 8 day a week ordeal. The B52's based on Guam had to then fly for hours to traverse the 2,800 mile journey to Vietnam, just to spend 60 seconds or so to drop its bombs, then head for home.


You make it sound much worse than getting those bombs on your head.
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:38 pm

dfwjim1 wrote:
If necessary could the B52s that flew missions over Vietnam be quickly converted back to carrying nuclear weapons or would this have a been a long complicated process?


There would have been some equipment that was unique to dropping iron bombs, and some unique to nukes. It would take about a day, or so to convert a B-52D/F/G from conventional bombing to nuclear bombing, so it was pretty quick.

The changes would include some bomb racks, and electronic equipment.
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:12 am

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I was at Okinawa when the b-52 aborted take off and blew up. I was on crash recovery and went thru the wreckage. The real story was kept secret and they put out a story that the crew aborted to keep a the wreck on base and gave the crew medals..... The real story is that the crew was drunk, as was often the case, and the co pilot decided he did not want to go and pulled the throttles back half way down the run way. The plane rolled into the approach lights and caught fire killing the crew chief and two air police. Many of the 108 500lb bombs cooked off and blew a hole in the ground you could put a shopping center in. The only parts recognisable the next day was the wheels and oxygen bottles. A real mess. there were bombs and parts of bombs spread out for half a mile. The crew escaped before the fire took hold.


My middle school principal was a B-52 navigator on Anderson during Nam. When Challanger exploded he talked about their squadron loosing a B-52 on takeoff and them having to fly the mission regardless. I wonder if this was the same crash.
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:15 am

kc135topboom wrote:
dfwjim1 wrote:
If necessary could the B52s that flew missions over Vietnam be quickly converted back to carrying nuclear weapons or would this have a been a long complicated process?


There would have been some equipment that was unique to dropping iron bombs, and some unique to nukes. It would take about a day, or so to convert a B-52D/F/G from conventional bombing to nuclear bombing, so it was pretty quick.

The changes would include some bomb racks, and electronic equipment.


I was in the belly of a B-52 during an airshow and they had one of the guys from the B-17 from the Collins Foundation's B-17 talking to the Air Force guy answering questions about the aircraft and comparing notes between the 17 and the 52. The Collins pointed out the bomb mounts/releases that were in the airplane, and told the air for guy, "Those are the same ones that are in our airplane"
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:23 am

dfwjim1 wrote:
If necessary could the B52s that flew missions over Vietnam be quickly converted back to carrying nuclear weapons or would this have a been a long complicated process?


it was reasonably quick. Many birds were actually US-based nuclear deterrent birds that did six months tours flying out of Guam and Thailand. The planes, and crews would deploy, then return. upon return, the crews went on temporary duty to another US B-52 base to get re-certified for nuclear crew duty, and the aircraft would get prepped for nuclear use back at their home base.

The munitions handling equipment was different, but it did not deploy, and a few weapons crews stayed behind as well, so the equipment was well-maintained. Those crews did a short temporary duty to get recertified as well, usually prior to the aircraft returning home.

i was a bomb loader at Westover when it deployed, and I was one of the stay behinders, who went to Wright Pattersons to go my recertification loads.
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Re: RE: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:11 am

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Only the B-52D, with the 'Big Belly' mod could carry 80 Mk. 84s 500 lb bombs in clips in the internal bomb bay. They also carried an additional 24 bombs on the wing pylons, 12 on each side.


If memory serves (and often it does not -- and I certainly don't want to start an argument or a pi**ing contest) The B-52D (and the B-52C's that were converted to "Big Belly' carried 84 500 lb bombs internally, and 24 750 pound bombs externally, 12 of each wing.

The bomb bay was loaded with three racks of 28 bombs each, while each wing had two TERs (triple ejection racks), each of which held six munitions. I'll see if I can locate some pictures -- which may well prove me wrong.

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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:52 pm

Only D F and G models were used in Vietnam. The D was the only model which had the "Big Belly" mod and the Fs were used while the Ds were modded.
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Re: RE: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:50 pm

NamGunner wrote:
kc135topboom wrote:
Only the B-52D, with the 'Big Belly' mod could carry 80 Mk. 84s 500 lb bombs in clips in the internal bomb bay. They also carried an additional 24 bombs on the wing pylons, 12 on each side.


If memory serves (and often it does not -- and I certainly don't want to start an argument or a pi**ing contest) The B-52D (and the B-52C's that were converted to "Big Belly' carried 84 500 lb bombs internally, and 24 750 pound bombs externally, 12 of each wing.

The bomb bay was loaded with three racks of 28 bombs each, while each wing had two TERs (triple ejection racks), each of which held six munitions. I'll see if I can locate some pictures -- which may well prove me wrong.

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Quick question...when the B-52s were doing their missions over Vietnam would they drop all of their bombs at once or did they ever drop one set of bombs on a target and then move on to another target with the rest of their bombs?
 
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:42 am

mmo wrote:
Only D F and G models were used in Vietnam. The D was the only model which had the "Big Belly" mod and the Fs were used while the Ds were modded.


Thank you. I stand corrected.
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:58 pm

For those of you who have never seen a B-52 bomb drop up close and personal, here is a USAF official Photo taken alongside a B-52D during a bomb drop. It is not clear if this is a combat or test drop, but you can see the stream of 500lb bombs coming out of the bomb bay and the 750lb bombs coming off of the wing pylons.

Given the aircraft number (100), I suspect it is a test drop somewhere.

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This might also work: http://www.ralphvaughan.com/F7/images/B-52D 20060317-F-0000A-003.jpg

This is the first time I've tried to attach a photo, so it may not work. It is JPEG Image, 2813 × 1980 pixels, and weighs in at 245K
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Re: RE: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:58 pm

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The actual loading of the B-52D bomb bays was simplified with the use of bomb clips. Only the pylons required manual loading of individual bombs. As for how long it took, I don't know.

Here's links to a couple small photos of the clips.

http://www.306thbw.org/306thscrpbk/imag ... mbLoad.jpg

http://www.306thbw.org/306thscrpbk/imag ... GUAM05.jpg

http://www.306thbw.org/306thscrpbk/Imag ... GUAM07.jpg

So were the clips only used in a "salvo" / carpet drop? Or could weapons be released singly/pairs, etc?

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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:33 am

Here is a load crew hanging the last of the 750 pound bombs off of the wing-mounted ejection rack.
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:35 am

Here is an overhead view showing the trailered bomb racks. Two are full and about to be loaded, one is empty, havnng been removed from the bomb bay to facilitate loading the first rack/clip.

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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:12 am

First question was on the time to Load a B52D. An experienced crew averaged from 1.5 to 2.5 hours depending on the type of load. 84 MK-84s (internal) & either 24 MK84s or 24 M-117s external was about 2 hrs, this included stripping empty racks from previous mission and preparing bombs & aircraft for the next mission. We also did single loads of 42 M-117s internally (we called it one-by loading) and 24 Mk-84 or 24 M-117s external. (total of 66 bombs) CBU-24 cluster bombs were also loaded in this configuration. These were the most common types of loads. The photo of the external bombs being loaded is a load of MK-82s not M-117s. We loaded a minimum of 12hr shifts and 6 days on & one off in good times. During Linebacker, Bullet Shot & Linebacker II pushes we did many days of 24/7 stopping only to eat or nap between loads. You didn't hear the crews complain. We use to compete to see which crews could load the most aircraft during our shifts. Also the external racks are two MERs (multiple ejector racks) per side, each MER holds 6 Bombs. Someone called them TERs (triple ejector rack) a TER only holds 3 bombs.
 
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:22 am

Thx. After all these years the brain cells that remind me of the differences between MERs and TERs have been lost. The pic I loaded of the MJ-1 bomb lift truck sure brought back some memories.
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:13 pm

NamGunner wrote:
Here is a load crew hanging the last of the 750 pound bombs off of the wing-mounted ejection rack.
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Those look like MK-82s (500 lb). The MK-117 has a completely different lesss\ streamlined shape.
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:44 am

Out of interest, how did they get the clips underneath the aircraft into the bomb bays - I've stood next to the one at Duxford and *I* had to duck to look underneath the aircraft....
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:41 pm

Quick question...when the B-52s were doing their missions over Vietnam would they drop all of their bombs at once or did they ever drop one set of bombs on a target and then move on to another target(s) with the rest of their bombs?
 
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Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:55 pm

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Out of interest, how did they get the clips underneath the aircraft into the bomb bays - I've stood next to the one at Duxford and *I* had to duck to look underneath the aircraft....


The bombay doors actually open quite a bit when they are unhinged. Each side ot the door is split and unhinges to allow the clips to be rolled under the doors and lifted up into position. When they are carrying a 4 pack of nukes, the same thing happens. In the SRAM days the rotary launcher was also installed the same way.

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Quick question...when the B-52s were doing their missions over Vietnam would they drop all of their bombs at once or did they ever drop one set of bombs on a target and then move on to another target(s) with the rest of their bombs? .


The entire load was dropped at once. During "LinebackerII" the loads were all dropped over specific targets. In earlier years in the south, the bomb interval could be set so you could cover a larger area if the frag order was written like that. When there were suspected POL storage, truck parks or troops the interval was longer to cover more area.
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Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:24 am

dfwjim1 wrote:
Quick question...when the B-52s were doing their missions over Vietnam would they drop all of their bombs at once or did they ever drop one set of bombs on a target and then move on to another target(s) with the rest of their bombs?

The transition from "sorties per target" to "targets per sortie" didn't happen until a little before the Gulf War. Precision guided munitions didn't cross a 2/3 share of use until Iraqi Freedom.
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:13 am

Spacepope wrote:
NamGunner wrote:
Here is a load crew hanging the last of the 750 pound bombs off of the wing-mounted ejection rack.


Those look like MK-82s (500 lb). The MK-117 has a completely different lesss\ streamlined shape.


As I look carefully at the picture, I tend to believe you are right and I was wrong.
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:15 am

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First question was on the time to Load a B52D. An experienced crew averaged from 1.5 to 2.5 hours depending on the type of load. 84 MK-82s (internal) & either 24 MK82s or 24 M-117s external was about 2 hrs, this included stripping empty racks from previous mission and preparing bombs & aircraft for the next mission. We also did single loads of 42 M-117s internally (we called it one-by loading) and 24 Mk-84 or 24 M-117s external. (total of 66 bombs) CBU-24 cluster bombs were also loaded in this configuration. These were the most common types of loads. The photo of the external bombs being loaded is a load of MK-82s not M-117s. We loaded a minimum of 12hr shifts and 6 days on & one off in good times. During Linebacker, Bullet Shot & Linebacker II pushes we did many days of 24/7 stopping only to eat or nap between loads. You didn't hear the crews complain. We use to compete to see which crews could load the most aircraft during our shifts. Also the external racks are two MERs (multiple ejector racks) per side, each MER holds 6 Bombs. Someone called them TERs (triple ejector rack) a TER only holds 3 bombs.
 
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:43 am

NamGunner wrote:
Here is an overhead view showing the trailered bomb racks. Two are full and about to be loaded, one is empty, havnng been removed from the bomb bay to facilitate loading the first rack/clip.

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If anyone is interested the photo shows the bomb racks/Bay Assemblies the two are loaded with 14 M117 bombs (750 lbs). These were referred to as an A Bay, A B Bay load would have 28 Mk-82 (500 lbs) bombs. The Bays are sitting on BAT Trailers (Bay Assembly Transport). From the appearance of the positioning of the bomb trailers, lack of the empty flatbeds for the external bombs (MK-82) which had already been loaded it appears the load was stop prior to load completion. Load would never be left that way unless a maintenance issue on the aircraft had been discovered. Note that no Load Crew or personnel are around the BUFF.

P.S. Shift change would not be a reason to leave the load incomplete.
 
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Re: B52 Question About Bomb Loads During Vietnam

Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:52 am

B52DLoader wrote:
First question was on the time to Load a B52D. An experienced crew averaged from 1.5 to 2.5 hours depending on the type of load. 84 MK-84s (internal) & either 24 MK84s or 24 M-117s external was about 2 hrs, this included stripping empty racks from previous mission and preparing bombs & aircraft for the next mission. We also did single loads of 42 M-117s internally (we called it one-by loading) and 24 Mk-84 or 24 M-117s external. (total of 66 bombs) CBU-24 cluster bombs were also loaded in this configuration. These were the most common types of loads. The photo of the external bombs being loaded is a load of MK-82s not M-117s. We loaded a minimum of 12hr shifts and 6 days on & one off in good times. During Linebacker, Bullet Shot & Linebacker II pushes we did many days of 24/7 stopping only to eat or nap between loads. You didn't hear the crews complain. We use to compete to see which crews could load the most aircraft during our shifts. Also the external racks are two MERs (multiple ejector racks) per side, each MER holds 6 Bombs. Someone called them TERs (triple ejector rack) a TER only holds 3 bombs.


Have to correct my poor typing skills line 2 should read 84 MK82s internal & either 24 MK82s external. line 4 should read 24 MK82s or 24 M117s external. I tend to fat finger the keyboard.

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