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F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:45 pm

On this sites homepage there are pictures of an F-16 that ran off the runway at Oshkosh and had the nose gear collapse, does anyone know any of the details surrounding that? Glad the pilot is okay and looks like the airframe will be too.



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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:20 pm

Here is a video of it happening... he looked wicked fast on his rollout. A pilot that was taxiing out commented elsewhere that the F-16 looked high on his base, overshot final and took a bit too get lined up properly. The pilot that made that comment was told by the tower to shut down after this incident happened. It'll be interesting to find out what was going on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS8xFBgfp-Q
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:45 am

Here is an amazing sequence of great photos catching the entire overrun unfold.

http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-201...f16-incident,0,628759.photogallery
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:09 am

What a flaming moron... that pilot ought to be stripped of her wings and booted out of the service.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:47 am

Unbelievable! I wouldn't expect a ppl to misjudge a field that badly . What the HELL were they thinking? Go around ffs . Do they seriously not know their aircraft that well?
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:27 am

Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 2):
Here is an amazing sequence of great photos catching the entire overrun unfold.

http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-201...llery

It looks like the FJ4 that overran a few hours later is in picture #21 with the F-16. Looks like that was taken later (presumably after the FJ4 overrun). Apparently they dragged the F-16 off to the side some.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:11 am

Quoting rwessel (Reply 5):
It looks like the FJ4 that overran a few hours later is in picture #21 with the F-16. Looks like that was taken later (presumably after the FJ4 overrun). Apparently they dragged the F-16 off to the side some.

That is the FJ4 but I seriously doubt the F-16 has been moved. Just my opinion. Perhaps the FJ just veered right to avoid tail striking the Falcon?
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:50 am

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 3):
What a flaming moron... that pilot ought to be stripped of her wings and booted out of the service.

Wow...sounds serious! Since your passing judgement, what exactly happened? What was the official cause? I can't imagine you'd make those comments without knowing, so please fill us in.

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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:58 am

Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 6):
That is the FJ4 but I seriously doubt the F-16 has been moved. Just my opinion. Perhaps the FJ just veered right to avoid tail striking the Falcon?

My thinking was that a new obstacle just off the end (and the F-16 clearly didn’t go very far) of a runway will often close it, or significantly shorten its usable length. 18/36 is only 8000ft long as it is, shorten that by much and you're going to start having issues with some of the higher performance birds.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:52 pm

Wait a minute - I have to get this straight. There were two jet aircraft which landed long - and went into the grass on the very same day? What part of this is normal?

On a side note, did John McCain re-enlist in the USAF :P
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:08 pm

Quoting checksixx (Reply 7):
Wow...sounds serious! Since your passing judgement, what exactly happened? What was the official cause? I can't imagine you'd make those comments without knowing, so please fill us in.

Thanks.

What else do you need to know? Unless of course for the obvious total hydraulic failure and no brakes, I don't see anything further deliberate. I know today's Air Force is a kinder, gentler Air Force but the sad fact of the matter is, there is nothing to justify this result.

I'm not advocating that the pilot is a bad person, they just no longer have a place in an F-16 bang seat. Send them to AMO school or something to finish out their obligation, just don't waste any more F-16's to this pilots horrible decision making process.

In what will ultimately be most damaging in this pilots case will be the fact that his wingman landed his F-16 seconds before he, and had no problem. If he was so far down the runway as he apparently was, he should have executed a missed approach before he even set his main wheels down. If this guy was a Navy carrier pilot perhaps the decision to go around would have been easier for he to make, as "wave off's" are not an uncommon event when landing on the back of a carrier deck. Why didn't he perform a go-around and execute a missed approach? Was he afraid that all the people there looking at him would laugh?

But whatever his reason, it does not matter - the end result remains the same.

Something told this pilot that he could still land half way down the runway or wherever the spot that he was, and that he could still stop. But he wasn't even close. Anybody can get complacent and develop bad habits that otherwise lead to errors in judgement, but not just anyone can fly a fighter jet.

So unless this guy had a complete and total loss of braking ability, as far as I see it this event is more than enough to halt the military flying career of the pilot involved; it's indefensible. Time for he or she to move on to that next phase of their life. There are plenty of other pilots who can fill his seat and who don't have a gross error in judgement on their record such as this.

Of course, I could be wrong - I'm open to others opinions.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:03 pm

Aircraft is a 1988-build block 30, no chin inlet targeting pods. I doubt it will be repaired. Most of these old ANG airframes are high time (The F-16s up at Buckley have a few jets with over 7000 hours). It'll probably be swapped for another of the better block 30s that have recently been sent to AMARG.
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:36 pm

Quoting FoxTwo (Reply 9):
On a side note, did John McCain re-enlist in the USAF :P

Highly unlikely being that he was a Navy man, not an Air Force. Nice try.
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:39 pm

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 10):

So unless this guy had a complete and total loss of braking ability, as far as I see it this event is more than enough to halt the military flying career of the pilot involved; it's indefensible. Time for he or she to move on to that next phase of their life. There are plenty of other pilots who can fill his seat and who don't have a gross error in judgement on their record such as this.

Of course, I could be wrong - I'm open to others opinions.

This will not happen. Pilots sometimes make bad calls . The CAF / USAF have both put pilots back in the cockpit after careless incidents. Mind you, I agree that it is blatantly obvious he touched down WELL BEYOND the touchdown markers and as a result - he is probably grounded pending the investigation. Does the F16 not have a long roll out when compared to other fighters? Look at where the first viper touches down -then look at the second. Night and day.
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:30 am

Quoting airtran737 (Reply 12):
Quoting FoxTwo (Reply 9):
On a side note, did John McCain re-enlist in the USAF :P

Highly unlikely being that he was a Navy man, not an Air Force. Nice try.

Its a funny reference though because McCain has had more than a couple aircraft accidents/incidents.
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:45 pm

Quoting airtran737 (Reply 12):
ghly unlikely being that he was a Navy man, not an Air Force. Nice try.

Aw, did I touch a political nerve? I was asking if he re-enlisted in the USAF- as he is now retired from the USN with a good # of accidents under his belt! Once a wildman always a wildman.
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:32 pm

36 is a full ILS runway at 8,000' in length, throw in the flight path marker from the HUD, just no excuse not to have executed a missed approach and just say it was part of the airshow!

 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:47 pm

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 10):
If this guy was a Navy carrier pilot perhaps the decision to go around would have been easier for he to make, as "wave off's" are not an uncommon event when landing on the back of a carrier deck.

Wave-offs ARE relatively UNcommon during CV ops. And USN CV pilots do NOT initiate such wave-offs when the do occur! I am not sure how being a USN pilot would have changed any decision to go around in this instance.

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Why didn't he perform a go-around and execute a missed approach?

That is one of the questions to be answered by the mishap investigation. Any potential negative consequences will likely be highly influenced by that answer. IMHO, one does not rush-to-judgement without knowing the facts.

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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:41 pm

Quoting AAR90 (Reply 17):
Wave-offs ARE relatively UNcommon during CV ops. And USN CV pilots do NOT initiate such wave-offs when the do occur! I am not sure how being a USN pilot would have changed any decision to go around in this instance.

I gotcha. I meant to imply that it is not too terribly UNcommon to to miss a wire and have to go-around for another attempt at landing on the carrier. My point was that maybe perhaps being an AF fast moving jet pilot and not otherwise used to aborting a landing attempt, perhaps the pilot tried to make this landing work when he just should have given up on it, and went around?

One can obtain a lot of facts from just the video about on the internet, something that most mishaps don't usually have the luxury of. An exact same type of plane landed safely just moments ahead, but this ship came in fast and landed long, to that I do not think one can too terribly argue. Sure, maybe he had a reason like he had a braking issue or a gremlin on his wing, but that will like you say, be up to AIB to figure out.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:17 pm

Quoting FoxTwo (Reply 9):
Wait a minute - I have to get this straight. There were two jet aircraft which landed long - and went into the grass on the very same day? What part of this is normal?

Its EAA Airventure, there are usually several non-major wrecks a day during that event, and usually at least 1 fatality. Accidents are treated the same way NASCAR and F-1 treat wrecks, the move it off to the side, clean up the derbies and continue business as usual.

OSH during this time is the busiest airport in the US and sometimes the world, doing more ops in 12 hours than ORD does in 24. A lot of pilots get caught up in the urgency to put it on the ground and sometimes accidents happen.
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:07 pm

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 3):
What a flaming moron...

Hardly...

I was there when it happened, standing near the end of the runway.

It was a flight of two F16's, doing several fast fly-by's for the public.
We noticed that number two (the incident plane) did not use afterburner at all, while the lead F16 did so consistently.

Both approaches looked OK from a distance. The lead F16 landed to the right of the centerline, the incident plane behind it, slightly to the left of center. The lead slowed down normally and took the high speed taxiway to the right, just as the other F16 started to overtake him. The lead had speedbrakes deployed, the incident plane did not.
It also appeared the incident plane's engine was not running - we missed the characteristic whistling noise. Several people around me commented on this as well.
So, the first conclusion of us spectators was that the incident F16 lost it's engine shortly before landing, or while rolling out.
Without the engine, obviously he did not have any hydraulics (wheel brakes and speedbrake) and had no choice but to use the grass for a buffer.

He didn't punch out, and did not fire up the EPU - saving the public from the dangers of a seat dropping on some folks, and the hydrazine fumes from his EPU.

He did open the canopy really quickly, jumped out and ran like a bat out of hell...
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:35 pm

Quoting cdekoe (Reply 20):
t also appeared the incident plane's engine was not running - we missed the characteristic whistling noise. Several people around me commented on this as well.

Hmm - looking at photos 12 and 13, it seems like the engine was running _a little_ anyway. Though it may be 'ram air' going through as the snout plowed up the ground...Could have been spooling down.
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:38 am

Quoting cdekoe (Reply 20):
I was there when it happened, standing near the end of the runway.

Good info! I arrived at OSH on Friday, so I missed this. What an experience though. Watching Fifi start up right in front of me and flying on Aluminum Overcast.

Anyway, while watching the video, I was thinking: "God, I hope he didn't screw up. Talk about a walk of shame!"

Also, the FJ4 is the same that landed gear up at Pensacola, isn't her? Anybody knows what was the cause of that mishap?
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:26 pm

I'm surprised no one mentioned the last photo. I think it's the most telling with the guy just camped out in his portable lazy boy chair safeguarding his Vespa and clearly thinking "I see wiped out F-16s every day".
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:07 am

FYI,

The accident report is out:
http://www.airforce-magazine.com/Sit.../Day22/022112_ACC_%20F-16C_AIB.pdf
Cause in a nutshell:
The environmental control system caused extreme fogging that completely obscured the pilot's visual cues and severely affected correct execution of normal landing procedures. The pilot could not defog the cockpit in a satisfactory manner to see and reference his visual cues. Without the necessary visual clues, the pilot did not apply adequate aerobraking which increased his landing distance, and as a result, ran into the grass.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:07 am

Quoting ThePointblank (Reply 24):

Look at all the fog!!
http://i41.tinypic.com/24zhi8i.jpg

Additionally a quick search for the words "Speed Brakes" in that document yielded no results   
I'm not buying it.

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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:12 am

Quoting Gyreaux130J (Reply 25):
Additionally a quick search for the words "Speed Brakes" in that document yielded no results
I'm not buying it.

You missed this on the executive summary:

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The board president found by clear and convincing evidence that the cause of the mishap was extreme fogging in the MA cockpit, caused by the MA ECS, that completely obscured the MP’s vision. The board president found by a preponderance of the evidence that substantially contributing factors were an inadequate aerobrake, a fast touchdown speed, and closed speedbrakes.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:41 am

So I did... but my point remains. The lack of use of speed brakes played a major role in this incident.

[Edited 2012-02-24 23:45:31]

It's just that this finding pisses me off when compared to the findings of the F-22 crash in Alaska.


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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:54 am

Quoting Gyreaux130J (Reply 27):

Inadequate is a subjective term.
Does Inadequate mean the pilot didn't apply enough aerobraking or does it mean the aerobrake was faulty?

Your original post suggests the former.

Because it was the former; the pilot didn't apply enough aerobraking according to the report, because he got distracted and disoriented by the fogging caused by the environmental systems. As a result of the fog in the cockpit, the pilot lost all reference points inside and outside the cockpit. This lead to the pilot to lose track of his reference point for the desired angle of attack in order to perform a proper aerobrake, and caused him to loose track of his closure rate and ground speed. Contributing to this was that the pilot failed to deploy the speedbrakes prior to touchdown, which contributed to a faster touchdown speed and a longer touchdown distance.

It's all there in the report; its fairly short at 26 pages in total, and it gets to the points very quickly.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:03 am

Quoting ThePointblank (Reply 28):

I just fundamentally disagree with the report that the pilot lost all SA on the ground because of some fogging in the cockpit. I'm not one to monday morning quarterback this kind of thing(I wasn't the pilot... I don't fly vipers), but I can't help but feel the pilot screwed the pooch on this one.
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:24 am

Quoting Gyreaux130J (Reply 29):
I just fundamentally disagree with the report that the pilot lost all SA on the ground because of some fogging in the cockpit. I'm not one to monday morning quarterback this kind of thing(I wasn't the pilot... I don't fly vipers), but I can't help but feel the pilot screwed the pooch on this one.

Well, according to the accident report, the fogging was really bad; the pilot could barely see his own instruments:

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Furthermore, the fog in the cockpit caused the MP to lose both inside and outside reference points. The MP stated that he “was able to just get a quick focus on the 140 and then nothing” (Tab V-1.13). Furthermore, the fog causing him to lose his reference point for the desired angle of attack in order to perform a proper aerobrake. He stated that “I just obviously wasn't high enough” (Tab V-1.5--1.6). The fog caused the MP to lose track of his closure rate and ground speed, which ultimately led to an unsafe situation.

Had the pilot been able to maintain SA, or at least see his instruments, he most likely would have been able to perform the proper aerobraking maneuver just before touch down. If you read on page 25, it states that according to simulations, at 165 kts touchdown speed with less than a 13-degree AOA aerobrake landing distance could increase up to 7300 ft. It goes on further on page 26 and states that a correct aerobrake maneuver would have stopped the aircraft on the runway even with the speedbrake closed with 1000ft remaining of the runway.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:44 am

While I also disagree with the conclusion's they've developed based on the findings, I can only say...it is, what it is.

I think most aviators in general see some things wrong here, but its not going to change anything.

My thoughts though would have been to either go around and/or climb to a safe altitude/area and trouble shoot the ECS problem OR if I was on the ground, at that speed in that situation, I would have jettisoned the canopy.

Like I said...just my thoughts. He made a decision, followed it through, and walked away.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:15 am

Quoting ThePointblank (Reply 30):
the pilot could barely see his own instruments:

I have friends who have seen the SIB report on this accident and said it was a S##t show.
It pisses me off that the Air Force is letting this guy off the hook while blaming fighter pilots like"Bong" Haney for not being able to breathe.

Quoting checksixx (Reply 31):
and walked away.

We all know what they say about good landings vs. bad landings.

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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:00 am

Quoting checksixx (Reply 31):
My thoughts though would have been to either go around and/or climb to a safe altitude/area and trouble shoot the ECS problem OR if I was on the ground, at that speed in that situation, I would have jettisoned the canopy.

I was thinking the same thing until I read that the fog obscured the pilot's view of his instruments. I'm not convinced a safe go-around could have been executed in that case.

Quoting Gyreaux130J (Reply 32):
It pisses me off that the Air Force is letting this guy off the hook while blaming fighter pilots like"Bong" Haney for not being able to breathe.

Indeed, and the oxygen problems continue: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/22-rap...ter/story?id=15807740#.T0132fEgcmw

...three more "hypoxia-like" situations in the last two weeks. Haney was an outstanding pilot. If he couldn't recognize/handle an oxygen problem, chances are the vast, vast majority of other F-22 pilots wouldn't have been able to, either. The USAF accident investigation board should be ashamed to have found him at fault. I wonder what high-ranking government official ordered them to do so.
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:52 am

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 33):
Quoting checksixx (Reply 31):
My thoughts though would have been to either go around and/or climb to a safe altitude/area and trouble shoot the ECS problem OR if I was on the ground, at that speed in that situation, I would have jettisoned the canopy.

I was thinking the same thing until I read that the fog obscured the pilot's view of his instruments. I'm not convinced a safe go-around could have been executed in that case.

Well I'm not convinced either, just my thoughts...he was already in an unsafe situation. I guess I would have jettisoned the canopy than risk the entire jet or my body for that matter. In reading the report, the pilot had options and simply did not use any. Didn't even safe the jet properly before his ground egress. I'm normally not critical of pilots in these situations, but its my belief the AIB report is wrong.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:38 am

Quoting checksixx (Reply 34):
I'm normally not critical of pilots in these situations, but its my belief the AIB report is wrong.

The AIB does seem inconsistent, doesn't it? On one hand, the F-16 pilot was absolved of any and all fault, but Haney was faulted for being distracted by suffocation.

I have to think that had the AIB held the F-16 pilot to the standards placed on Haney in the F-22 investigation, the former would be facing a court-marshal.
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:00 am

Quoting checksixx (Reply 34):
I guess I would have jettisoned the canopy than risk the entire jet or my body for that matter.

Not an option on the F-16. When you jettison the canopy, it is a very violent procedure; there are rockets attached to the canopy that go off when you pull the canopy ejection handle, either from the outside or from the inside. The canopy goes flying off in a cloud of smoke, and the whole procedure actually causes a lot of damage to the aircraft, as the canopy doesn't really travel that far, and it will hit the vertical stabilizer while ejecting, along with any other control surfaces.

The only other option on the F-16 is to use a manual crank to open the canopy; its very time consuming when you do so, and it likely won't work when you are flying due to the wind acting against the canopy.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:09 am

Quoting ThePointblank (Reply 36):
Quoting checksixx (Reply 34):
I guess I would have jettisoned the canopy than risk the entire jet or my body for that matter.

Not an option on the F-16. When you jettison the canopy, it is a very violent procedure; there are rockets attached to the canopy that go off when you pull the canopy ejection handle, either from the outside or from the inside. The canopy goes flying off in a cloud of smoke, and the whole procedure actually causes a lot of damage to the aircraft, as the canopy doesn't really travel that far, and it will hit the vertical stabilizer while ejecting, along with any other control surfaces.

The only other option on the F-16 is to use a manual crank to open the canopy; its very time consuming when you do so, and it likely won't work when you are flying due to the wind acting against the canopy.

Jettisoning the canopy is definitely an option! Hence the reason it can be in the first place. I'm well aware how it works and in this case it would have cause FAR less damage than what occurred.
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:14 am

Quoting checksixx (Reply 37):
Jettisoning the canopy is definitely an option! Hence the reason it can be in the first place. I'm well aware how it works and in this case it would have cause FAR less damage than what occurred.

No it isn't especially considering how close bystanders were; you want the canopy flying off in a random direction, possibly heading towards the crowd or towards the nearby parked aircraft?
 
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:47 am

Quoting ThePointblank (Reply 38):

  
Probably the ONE right decision that guy made, aside from not ejecting. Which is debatable given the Viper's proclivity for doing this:

when going off road.

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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:46 pm

Quoting ThePointblank (Reply 38):

I think Checksixx knows what he's talking about.  
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RE: F-16 Overruns Runway At Oshkosh, Details?

Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:38 am

Quoting ThePointblank (Reply 38):
No it isn't especially considering how close bystanders were; you want the canopy flying off in a random direction, possibly heading towards the crowd or towards the nearby parked aircraft?

You apparently have never seen an F-16 canopy jettison. I assure you they jettison up, and to the rear of the aircraft....unless there was tornado like winds, it wasn't going anywhere near aircraft or crowds.

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