harleydriver
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KC-135E's For Chile

Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:42 am

Does anyone know what USAF tail numbers went to Chile? I've searched and haven't found an answer. The only previous discussion here listed 57-1501 as being one of the aircraft. If someone could confirm this and provide the other two tail numbers I would greatly appreciate it. I was a KC-135E Crew Chief and then a Boom Operator and I am curious if an aircraft I flew on might still be flying. I hope so!!
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RE: KC-135E's For Chile

Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:48 am

Hi Harley,

Confirmed by

http://www.scramble.nl/milbase.htm

The other two are 57-2594 and 58-0014.

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RE: KC-135E's For Chile

Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:20 pm

Harley,

I can confirm the former USAF numbers for the first two delivered:

# 981 : 57-1501
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# 983 : 58-0014
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Now, regarding the third, I personally couldn't find anywhere on board any identification to relate the aircraft to the original USAF number. Actually, some parts were definitely taken from different aircraft (for example MLG), so I don't know where Scramble took their information. Nevertheless, it's also the source I used when uploading.

# 982 : 57-2594
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RE: KC-135E's For Chile

Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:06 pm

Quoting HarleyDriver (Thread starter):
I was a KC-135E Crew Chief and then a Boom Operator and I am curious if an aircraft I flew on might still be flying.

Please do check in here from time to time, we have many fans of the KC-135 on this board!

You should have been around during the various tanker debates....

On the other hand, maybe not, the debates got pretty nasty from time to time! 

I for one would have preferred we put money into converting KC-135Es to Rs, but maybe with your experiences, you think it might have been time to move on?

Please do let us know what you think!
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RE: KC-135E's For Chile

Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:11 pm

Hi, the Aircraft Identiplate in the crew entry chute (if you have access to it) should atleast show you the Boeing serial number and show the original aircraft tail number.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 3):
I for one would have preferred we put money into converting KC-135Es to Rs, but maybe with your experiences, you think it might have been time to move on?

It would have been nice for them to get the upgraded engines, however it is not a cheap upgrade and since Boeing stopped the conversions on the Tankers in the 90's, (yes they converted the RC-135's not too long ago) it probably was more cost effective for Chile to leave them as E models. There are thousands of spare engines worldwide, so replacements wouldn't be difficult and probably quite inexpensive.

Just my thoughts.

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RE: KC-135E's For Chile

Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:28 pm

The USAF made the FMS sale to Chile of these 3 KC-135Es (plus a spares aircraft that is at DM) at the time when they were claiming the KC-135E was unsafe to fly due to corroded engine struts.

They tried to retire the entire KC-135E fleet, but Congress made them put about 125 or so in flyable storage. This was at the time the USAF was saying they didn't have enough tankers to fulfil all the missions they wanted.

Also at the same time they sold 3 KC-135Rs to the RAF for conversion into RC-135Ws.

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