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Official Nasa Last Ferry Flight Plan Released

Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:34 pm

This will be the final time a space shuttle orbiter will be ferried. Cleared for public release:

OFFICIAL NOW:

In cooperation with the Federal Aviation Administration, the SCA is scheduled to conduct low-level flyovers at about 1,500 feet above locations along the planned flight path. The exact timing and path of the ferry flight will depend on weather conditions and operational constraints. Some planned flyovers or stopovers could be delayed or
cancelled. If the ferry flight must be postponed for any reason, an additional advisory will be issued.

At sunrise on Sept. 17, the SCA and Endeavour will depart Kennedy's Shuttle Landing Facility and perform a flyover of various areas of the Space Coast, including Kennedy, the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, Cape Canaveral Air Force Station and Patrick Air Force Base.

The aircraft will fly west and conduct low flyovers of NASA's Stennis Space Center in Mississippi and the agency's Michoud Assembly Facility in New Orleans. As it arrives over the Texas Gulf Coast area, the SCA will perform low flyovers above various areas of Houston, Clear Lake and Galveston before landing at Ellington Field near NASA's Johnson Space Center. Weather permitting, the SCA and Endeavour will stay at Ellington the remainder of Sept. 17 and all day Sept. 18.

At sunrise on Wednesday, Sept. 19, the aircraft will depart Houston, make a refueling stop at Biggs Army Airfield in El Paso, Texas, and conduct low-level flyovers of White Sands Test Facility near Las Cruces, N.M., and NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base in California, before landing around midday at Dryden.

On the morning of Sept. 20, the SCA and Endeavour will take off from Dryden and perform a low-level flyover of northern California,passing near NASA's Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, Calif., and various landmarks in multiple cities, including San Francisco and Sacramento. The aircraft also will conduct a flyover of many Los Angeles sites before landing about 11 a.m. PDT at LAX

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Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:29 pm

Does anyone know of the plane at Ellington? Is there any decent viewing area? Will they open to the public for this? With them being there for a whole day I would think they'd allow some sort of public viewing. I'm also wondering about watching the landing/takeoff there.

Or what about Dryden? Any chance of a public view of the landing there?

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Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:01 pm

I will be there at the KSC Visitors Center to watch this one, just as I was for the last one. Can't wait.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:27 am

I took the 20th off from work, and will either be at LAX, or somewhere else to take some photos (depending on where else they are overflying).

I've never seen the shuttle + SCA (actually never seen the shuttle flying/rocketing at all), so very excited!!
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Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:29 pm

eksath any idea, roughly, on what time it will take off? 7am ish like last time?

As it turns out I'm doing photos at Titusville HS (right across the river, literally) that morning but I'm going to try and finnangle my way out of whatever time slot its leaving to get across the river and grab my shots... so as soon as you know more details about the departure time from KSC let us know please, and thank you!
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Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:23 pm

Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 4):
eksath any idea, roughly, on what time it will take off? 7am ish like last time?

As it turns out I'm doing photos at Titusville HS (right across the river, literally) that morning but I'm going to try and finnangle my way out of whatever time slot its leaving to get across the river and grab my shots... so as soon as you know more details about the departure time from KSC let us know please, and thank you!

Current schedule is 0715H wheels up. Sunrise is 0709H. The SCA is cleared to go beginning 20 minutes before Sunrise (if i remember correctly).

She will be going to do the same tour as the last time and come back for one final pass (the last time i checked). It takes about 20 minutes so there should be good sun for the final pass. However, clouds in the east could interfere. The clouds did help me get this though so I cannot complain  
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Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:50 pm

Quoting eksath (Reply 5):

Okay thank you. On the radio today they mentioned 7am during an advertisement for the event.. but I take it with a grain of salt. As the day gets closer if you can confirm the actual time (since I will have to modify my work schedule hopefully) please let us know.

And great photo you have there, as always.
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Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:57 pm

What's the contingency plan if it can't leave KSC on time due to wx? Do they cut short the Houston stop to keep it on time or just slide the time back? I've noticed that most SCA/Orbiter flights leave at dawn - would they leave later in the day or put it off for Tuesday?

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Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:14 pm

Well maybe NYC could be in question, but all the Orbiters were built in the LA area.
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RE: Official Nasa Last Ferry Flight Plan Released

Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:46 am

Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 6):
As the day gets closer if you can confirm the actual time (since I will have to modify my work schedule hopefully) please let us know.

I would keep the window 0700H- 0800H open as off now. I see a wheels up time of 0730 as a target currently.

Quoting Bruce (Reply 7):
What's the contingency plan if it can't leave KSC on time due to wx?

Weather at KSC, weather along the route and weather at EFD will be evaluated before launching. If any one of those three out of limits, she will sit on the ground.

Quoting Bruce (Reply 7):
Do they cut short the Houston stop to keep it on time or just slide the time back?

Very low probability.

Quoting Bruce (Reply 7):
I've noticed that most SCA/Orbiter flights leave at dawn - would they leave later in the day or put it off for Tuesday?

Weather in FL goes downhill in the afternoon usually. Sunrise departure is to take advantage of the calm weather. Again, she will go if the weather is clear at KTTS,along the route and EFD.


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Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:09 pm

I shot this picture below as she rolled into the MDD yesterday. More can be seen here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/suresh_atapattu/7988231019/in/photostream

http://www.atapattu.net/endeavourdeparture/4A6U8540SEndeavour_sca_MDD966.jpg
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RE: Official Nasa Last Ferry Flight Plan Released

Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:25 am

weather for the flight to Texas is marginal as off current forecast. 5am Monday morning weather briefing will be decision time for go/no go.
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Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:34 am

There was talk about the ferry flight flying over MCO and Disney on its way out west. I can't see anything officially posted anywhere. The theme parks aren't really open that early, so Disney doesn't make sense unless it is just a photo op to get it with the Castle behind it or something.
 
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Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:44 pm

Monday is no-go. Weather in Texas has caused a 24 hr delay. The EFD stop looses a day.

[Edited 2012-09-16 13:04:35]
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Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:13 pm

Quoting eksath (Reply 13):
Monday is no-go. Weather in Texas has caused a 24 hr delay. The EFD stop looses a day.

So because of weather in Texas, it doesn't leave Florida until Tuesday... gee nice - now I can't go see it because I work Tuesday morning.
 
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RE: Official Nasa Last Ferry Flight Plan Released

Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:15 am

Quoting eksath (Reply 13):
Monday is no-go. Weather in Texas has caused a 24 hr delay. The EFD stop looses a day.

Does that mean it gets to LAX a day later?

Truly bummed if that's the case....

EDIT: Never mind, I answered my own question:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49055752/ns/technology_and_science-space/

Low flyovers are still planned along Cape Canaveral and at NASA facilities in Louisiana and Mississippi. A stop in Houston will be shortened to one day.

Endeavour is expected to arrive in Los Angeles on Thursday for its eventual installation at the California Science Center. Endeavour is the second of NASA's three retired shuttles to head to a museum. Discovery landed at the Smithsonian Institution's display hangar in Virginia last spring. Atlantis will remain at Kennedy.


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Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:48 am

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 15):

Good to see it still on schedule for the 20th.. I'd be more bummed than you!
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Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:26 pm

Just a heads up for those of you who plan to take leave and travel.

Looking ahead (this is not official), the forecast has conditions for Tuesday and Wednesday, that makes me feel less than optimistic for the KSC departure. Thursday looks good currently.

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/...uery=KTTS&yday=261&weekday=Tuesday

The mission planners are cautious and will not succumb to schedule pressure hence will hold for the best weather for takeoff,along the route and at the destination.
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Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:01 pm

Quoting n92r03 (Reply 18):
At least Wednesday now...

Hope it stays Wednesday, I'm off that day and if it goes then I will be there for sure. Fingers crossed...
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:19 am

I hope it waits until Friday now - thats my next day off and I am going out there for the Cocoa Beach Airshow practice. That would be an awesome addition to the airshow.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:56 pm

Friday arrival at LAX now, per NASA. Update at 11am ET Tuesday.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:23 pm

Quoting michiganatc (Reply 21):
Friday arrival at LAX now, per NASA. Update at 11am ET Tuesday.

Luckily, my employer allowed me to change my vacation day, so I'll hopefully still get to see it.

Word of warning for those who are going to LAX: there are temporary No Parking signs all along Imperial Ave. for Thursday between 9 AM and 3 PM (I assume those will be changed to Friday now). So you'll have to park somewhere and walk. I'll check tonight, probably, to see if other streets in El Segundo also have signs.
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:21 pm

Do we yet know the arrival time at LAX on Friday? It was supposed to be 11AM on Thurs. but Thursday isn't happening anymore so I figure 11AM might not be either. Or do we have to wait on the weather briefing tomorrow mentioned in the NASA announcement?
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:23 pm

http://twitter.com/NASAAmes

Scheduled now for 7:15am EDT departure Wed, 9/19

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NASA905
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:35 pm

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 24):
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NASA905

This link is showing me the wrong flight right now, it doesn't have anything scheduled yet, only a completed flight from I guess last week.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:04 pm

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 25):
This link is showing me the wrong flight right now, it doesn't have anything scheduled yet, only a completed flight from I guess last week.

She will most likely not use the NASA905 callsign. She did not use it on the last ferry flight.
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:21 pm

Awesome. I'm off Thursday but have to work Friday. Yeah, that's my kind of luck.

Funny, the cancelations and delays that plagued shuttle launches were the reason I never got to see a launch. Now it seems the same will happen for this ferry flight. I'll never see the shuttle fly.
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:51 pm

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 25):
This link is showing me the wrong flight right now, it doesn't have anything scheduled yet, only a completed flight from I guess last week.

I realize that but if and when they file the flight plan under NASA 905, this link will show "scheduled" and then the live flight, no other way to post it now.

Quoting eksath (Reply 26):
She will most likely not use the NASA905 callsign. She did not use it on the last ferry flight.

mduell at Flightaware said they will use call sign NASA 905 but was unsure if they will send information to them for tracking. Previous shuttle ferry flights were reported and tracked, the last flight was not. Hopefully, we get to track this one.

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Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 27):
Awesome. I'm off Thursday but have to work Friday. Yeah, that's my kind of luck.

Dude! Call in sick or something!

I never got to see the shuttle fly either, and I'm determined to see it Friday. Hell, I haven't even finished the 90-day probationary period at my job, and I'm taking a day off for this.
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I heard information from GOAA management that it is supposed to fly over MCO (not sure how low) and Disney as well as MacDill AFB and Tampa before heading to Texas.
 
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:26 am

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 29):
Dude! Call in sick or something!

I never got to see the shuttle fly either, and I'm determined to see it Friday. Hell, I haven't even finished the 90-day probationary period at my job, and I'm taking a day off for this.

Funny thing is I'm going to work that day to watch it land, but I don't work until that night so I won't be getting any sleep. Since my office (AA Superbay) is facing the runway the shuttle is landing on. I will forgo sleep for this once in a lifetime event.

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Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:35 am

I'll be leaving in 5 hours to see it take off. Pics to come!
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:34 am

Just announced on NASA TV that weather permitting it will fly over MCO and Disney... No mention of TPA or MacDill.
 
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:49 pm

It flew over Michoud Assembly and New Orleans this morning about an hour ago, bummer that no FA tracking was available, and it did use the call sign of "NASA 9-oh-5 heavy".
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:30 am

Looks like its going to be flying over Tucson sometime around noon tomorrow! Its supposed to be a tribute to former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords as her husband, Mark Kelly, was the commander of Endeavor's last mission. Obviously this is worth skipping class and I'm hopeful I'll get a good view of it from the campus. I've never really seen any of the space shuttles in person, and I figured my only chance to see one of them would if they for some reason decided to fly over Tucson during the ferry flight to California - but now its actually happening!!!
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:41 pm

what was the DC-9 that flew in formation with it???

ooops nevermind saw it was the C-9 on another thread

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Can't track the 747 but this is one of the T38 escorts

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...0/history/20120920/1336Z/KEFD/KELP
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:54 pm

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 37):
Can't track the 747 but this is one of the T38 escorts

Except that it flew at 36,000 feet?
Odd.

Edit: And, the shuttle flight landed at Ft. Bliss/Biggs, not ELP.

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So at LAX, is it going to be landing on 25L? is that official? I don't want to miss the photo op because I'm at the wrong place
 
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Quoting 4holer (Reply 38):
Except that it flew at 36,000 feet?
Odd.

I noticed that after I posted.

The SCA flies much lower right?
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Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 40):
The SCA flies much lower right?

Beneath 15K. The standard procedure due to the orbiter systems having fluids on board for ferry flight and being unpowered i.e. no heating systems on. Despite the current orbiters being mummified, the restriction remains on the books.
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:50 pm

I managed to get some decent pics of Endeavor as it flew over Tucson today! They were saying is was going to fly right over the center of campus, but it actually ended going off to the side a bit which somewhat hampered the view because of the surrounding buildings. Still cool to see though!
http://imageshack.us/a/img198/3876/nfngndgd003.jpg

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Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:12 pm

via Twitter
a very good picture of the Endeavour/SCA combo flying over Phoenix
https://twitter.com/wxphx/status/248856132662214656/photo/1

over Tucson with some pretty clouds in the background
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3QZZi8CAAEJ1bo.jpg

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Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:51 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 43):
a very good picture of the Endeavour/SCA combo flying over Phoenix

Please tell me it didn't fly over PHX!
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:56 pm

I like this youtube video from the chase plane over Houston. The hashtag #ov105 is finding some real great video and pictures on twitter. Thanks for the info to all those on A.net. I will most certainly be video taping what I can tomorrow.

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Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:19 am

Not my pictures, but here's some photos of it in Austin today (I had no idea this was happening):

http://i.imgur.com/q5TNm.jpg

And the best:

http://a.yfrog.com/img686/1961/h1lsr.jpg

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Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:03 pm

For those not in California there is a continuous live feed of Endeavour's final flight atop the SCA here - coverage goes on and off with NASA TV
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/livenow?id=8819314

from Twitter:
Here's a map of Endeavour's flight over CA courtesy of @NASA #SpottheShuttle @casciencecenter pic.twitter.com/fwJXgAfB

This channel is broadcasting the flight live now: - looks like air to air from T38 chase plane
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/livenow?i...18308#&cmp=twi-kgo-livenow-8818308


     

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Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:10 pm

Oak tower just said they expect #ol105 to flyover oak at about 10.20
http://www.liveatc.net/flisten.php?mount=koak&icao=koak

live stream of moffett field
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