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Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:44 am

 
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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:50 am

I think it's interesting that the fuel sat in those tanks for 40 years without leaking. We have KC-135s that come fresh out of fuel cell for fuel tank and bladder repairs that immediately start leaking after 1 flight!
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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:43 am

This is not the first time this has happened, I read an article a couple of years ago about the B-58 having a fuel leak and they found it still had fuel on it after sitting in the museum for 30 years.

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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:29 pm

Some of the older aircraft on display were probably never checked to ensure the tanks were completely trained.

According to the article - this plane went on display in 1968. Who knows what they did to prepare it back then.
 
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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:51 pm

Our local museum just four out that a service truck that was donated five or six years ago still had two hundred gallons of 120 weight of engine oil on it!
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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:53 pm

Actually wha really surprises me is that after fourth fourth years the fuel hadn't evaporated out of the vents.

a1d's burned avgas that that out in the open usually evaporates pretty quickly
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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:36 pm

There's still a sheen coming off the Arizona after 71 years.

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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:46 pm

The Pentagon had the knee jerk reaction to have all museums check all fuel tanks on all aircraft to make sure they are empty as a result of this.
 
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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:15 pm

When has the pentagon done anything like this that hasn't been a knee jerk reaction.

Oil companies also have similar overeactions. I worked for one that decided to ban all knives from work when somebody in Their AV department sliced the thumb open on an exact knife in a desk drawer.
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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:16 pm

The Museum I volunteer at recently got an F-4C phantom from Wright due to this issue in an indirect way.

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There was a significant amount of F-4s at Wright Pat that were due for scrapping. Dueing the process, they got to one plane and started cutting through the wing to find that it was never drained of fuel. So they immediately began checking all the other aircraft and when they got to ours, they discovered there was no paperwork or records of this plane being on the field with a squad. The wanted it off the property and thats how we got it.
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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:54 am

Actually bladder tanks either need to be filled with fuel or sprayed on the inside with a special preservation oil when in empty storage. Else the rubber will dry out and become porous. We had this issue when we restored our T-33.

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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:33 pm

Quoting Galaxy5007 (Reply 7):
The Pentagon had the knee jerk reaction to have all museums check all fuel tanks on all aircraft to make sure they are empty as a result of this.

Not sure they had to.
I'd have gone and checked myself if I was a museum owner.

I wouldn't mind stumbling upon a few dozen gallons of free Jet A just lying lying around for the old diesel beater...
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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:03 am

Quoting francoflier (Reply 11):
Not sure they had to.

No, we did. I volunteer at the AMC museum, and we had to check all of the planes...even the ones that were brought here in pieces and assembled here.
 
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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:27 pm

Thanks for the link to the story. A lead I use to work for was sent with a team to recovered that A-1E when he was in the USAF at NKP to get that Aircraft to the USAF Museum. He said it was a wreck, and had been stripped for parts. I sent him the story.
 
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RE: Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:00 pm

Quoting KC135Hydraulics (Reply 1):
We have KC-135s that come fresh out of fuel cell for fuel tank and bladder repairs that immediately start leaking after 1 flight!

Thats because the A1 is a Douglas and not a Boeing!! 
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