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HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Sun May 05, 2013 2:36 am

HMX-1 held it's public un-veiling today for it's first MV-22B. They are currently going through the process of phasing out the CH-46E with the MV-22B Block III variant.

Here are a few shots from today:

The Mighty Battle Phrog, soon to be even extinct from HMX-1




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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Sun May 05, 2013 8:52 am

The V-22 is going to serve well with HMX-1. They are also working on ship compatibility trials as a replacement for C-2 Greyhound in the carrier COD mission. More at the link below:
http://www.thebaynet.com/news/index.cfm/fa/viewstory/story_ID/31958

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Operational Testing the V-22 for the COD mission

5/2/2013

By Mike Wilson

Two V-22s from VMX-22 completed the first phase of Carrier onboard delivery (COD) operations with USS Harry S. Truman April 22, 2013.

According to published reports, the first phase began April 19th with the Marines loading and unloading the Ospreys to determine whether the MV-22s can be considered a replacement for aging C-2 Greyhounds. The evaluation included transferring passengers and cargo.

The next phase scheduled to begin in June will have the V-22s back aboard a carrier for six days. The Operational Test Marines will assess the Ospreys COD capabilities during fast-paced cyclic operations. Navy officials consider this phase critical because the Osprey cannot interrupt carrier operations.
http://www.thebaynet.com//images/news/full/2E9CAEC267618C92D4EA5ADC94867349.jpg
 
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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Sun May 05, 2013 4:13 pm

The V-22 makes a perfect replacement for the C-2 as it can not only land on a carrier but also pretty much any Navy ship.
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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Mon May 06, 2013 8:44 pm

All the above while ushering in a fresh competition for Marine One.....

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...elicopter-replacement-program.html

(Source: US Naval Air Systems Command; issued May 3, 2013)

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"PATUXENT RIVER, Md. --- Today the Navy issued a Request for Proposal (RFP) in the Presidential Helicopter Replacement Program (VXX). Proposals are due in 90 days with a goal to award a fixed-price incentive engineering and manufacturing development (EMD) contract, with production options, by mid-calendar year 2014.

'Our acquisition approach includes a full and open competition to select a prime contractor that can best integrate mature subsystems into an air vehicle currently in production for an affordable solution that meets mission requirements,' said Captain Dean Peters, the program manager charged with development of the replacement aircraft.

'We’re seeking a technically viable, cost-effective vertical lift aircraft to replace the current fleet as these reach the end of their useful service life. The Department of the Navy is committed to deliver a safe and reliable new Presidential Helicopter fleet, while maintaining the In-Service Fleet until that replacement is fielded.'

During the EMD phase, the selected contractor will provide six test aircraft, four of which will become operational aircraft. During the production phase, the RFP calls for 17 operational aircraft (four in low-rate initial production (LRIP) 1, five in LRIP 2 and eight in full-rate production), for a fleet total of 21 aircraft."



Proposals due in three months, EMD contract award target middle of next year...hmmn    ...
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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Mon May 06, 2013 9:44 pm

Quoting rheite (Thread starter):
MV-22B Block III

That is a sexy beast! I like it!

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 3):
All the above while ushering in a fresh competition for Marine One.....

The 22 pictured in the OP is not for Presidential transport, the helicopters designated for that duty (VIP transport) have the whitetop livery (Though they of course could be used to that if needed/desired, I am just noting that is not the intent based on the livery we see)

With that said I do wonder why it would not be a good Presidential helicopter? I think it would look terrific in the whitetop livery and be quite the way for the President to arrive/depart.

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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Mon May 06, 2013 10:14 pm

Quoting tugger (Reply 4):
With that said I do wonder why it would not be a good Presidential helicopter?

Looking at the twin rotors, perhaps a larger footprint on White House lawn and the president has to walk a little farther.  
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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Mon May 06, 2013 10:51 pm

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 5):
Looking at the twin rotors, perhaps a larger footprint on White House lawn and the president has to walk a little farther.

and possibly knocking down a tree or the press corps at the same time, lots of down wash from those rotors.
 
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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Tue May 07, 2013 1:10 am

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 5):
Looking at the twin rotors, perhaps a larger footprint on White House lawn

Is the LZ at the White House even big enough for a V-22?

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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Tue May 07, 2013 4:43 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 2):
The V-22 makes a perfect replacement for the C-2 as it can not only land on a carrier but also pretty much any Navy ship.

Well- seeing as I have served on many 'smallboys' I'd have to disagree.
Cruisers, Destroyers, and Frigates are hardly big enough for H-60s (or H-3s) so there's no way in hell that one of those monstrosities are gonna be landing on any of those decks anytime soon~ least not in one piece!!!




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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Tue May 07, 2013 5:43 am

Would a V-22 configured for presidential transport become a VV-22?   
 
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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Tue May 07, 2013 7:55 am

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 7):
even big enough for a V-22?

It's a big jump up in weight too, I wonder what the lawn is rated at?
 
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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Wed May 08, 2013 8:24 pm

The V-22 has a rather significant rotorwash and has a large foot print. A couple of the reasons it won't be used to land on the White House lawn. Same reason you never saw HMX land their H-53s at the White House.
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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Thu May 09, 2013 1:01 pm

From Boeing Press release:

"The "greenside" Ospreys do not carry the president, but will be tasked with presidential support missions, carrying support staff and members of the media who travel with the president. "

So if it's carry staff and press, where does it land? Does staff and press transport usually land at the White House also? Or do they have to go some where near by?

On the grand scheme of thing, it may not cost that much more to make the helipad larger to take the V-22. Heck, that many be the most cost effective sub contract of the whole procurement.

Also, how long does it take for the V-22 rotors to wind down? You would assume it would be faster than a helicopter rotor.
Perhaps braking mechanism can be employed to quickly stop the rotor . . .

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RE: HMX-1 Receives First MV-22B Aircraft

Thu May 09, 2013 5:55 pm

Sans the RFP stipulation for "existing, in-service platform" and given that it may take a long while anyway owing to the budget situation...this could be a good candidate for both requirements.....

http://www.aviationweek.com/media/im.../Defense/Helos/JMR-AVXAircraft.jpg

May be less problematic than the tilt-rotor...and will usher the HMX fleet into the next generation of faster helos. Smaller footprint and looks more "presidential" to boot. Just not sure if the rotor and prop wash would be gentler on the Rose Garden.   
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