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Both F-15SE And F-35 For South Korea?

Fri May 24, 2013 1:26 pm

From Defence Daily

"The Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) said it notified Congress Tuesday of possible Foreign Military Sales of F-15SE and F-35 weapons . . ."

Note the "and" and not "or". Is this just a formality of the request (pending completion of competition) or are they going to buy both?

Please keep on the subject of SK buying both and not diverge to a SE VS F-35 thread.

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RE: Both F-15SE And F-35 For South Korea?

Fri May 24, 2013 2:10 pm

Yes, this is just a standard part of the process. I doubt they buy both but for negotiating leverage with whatever they decide to buy they have to keep going through the motions I would think.
 
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RE: Both F-15SE And F-35 For South Korea?

Sun May 26, 2013 7:28 pm

Quoting BigJKU (Reply 1):
Yes, this is just a standard part of the process. I doubt they buy both but for negotiating leverage with whatever they decide to buy they have to keep going through the motions I would think.

Correct, ultimately the ROKAF will end up with EITHER the F-15SE or the F-35A, but not both.
 
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RE: Both F-15SE And F-35 For South Korea?

Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:55 pm

Officially offical. ROKAF will fly F-35s.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/2...outh-Korea-Officially-Selects-F-35

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WASHINGTON — The Republic of Korea has officially selected the F-35 as its next-generation fighter, the government announced this morning.

The country has agreed to purchase 40 of the F-35A conventional-takeoff-and-landing design, with first delivery planned for 2018. South Korea becomes the third foreign military sales customer for the F-35, joining Israel and Japan. There are eight other international partners on the program.

“We are honored by and appreciate the trust and confidence the Republic of Korea has placed in the 5th generation F-35 to meet its demanding security requirements,” Orlando Carvalho, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics executive vice president, said in a company press release. “This decision strengthens and extends our long-standing security partnership while enhancing regional stability across the greater Asia Pacific theater.”

The selection of the F-35 over Boeing’s F-15SE and Eurofighter’s Typhoon had been widely expected, with sources indicating in November that the F-35 had been selected to replace South Korea’s older F-4 and F-5 fighter fleet.

The fighter selection is the first part of a massive recapitalization effort underway by the Republic of Korea Air Force. The service is also aiming to award a contract on a new tanker before the end of the year, and also expects to begin development on its own indigenous fighter design.
 
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RE: Both F-15SE And F-35 For South Korea?

Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:54 am

Quoting bikerthai (Thread starter):
From Defence Daily

"The Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) said it notified Congress Tuesday of possible Foreign Military Sales of F-15SE and F-35 weapons . . ."

Note the "and" and not "or". Is this just a formality of the request (pending completion of competition) or are they going to buy both?

The weapons are fairly common between F-35 and the proposed F-15SE. The Korean contract for F-35's isn't fully finalized yet.
 
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RE: Both F-15SE And F-35 For South Korea?

Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:03 am

On related Korean news: the US is demanding a six-fold increase (!) in support costs for the F-15K Tiger Eye sensor:

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/full...00000000AEN20140327006151315F.html

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SEOUL, March 27 (Yonhap) -- The United States has demanded that South Korea accept a six-fold increase in the purchase price of F-15K's night sensors, citing discontinued production, a senior defense ministry official said Thursday.

The South Korean Air Force currently operates 60 F-15K Slam Eagles acquired from U.S. aerospace contractor Boeing through two deals in 2002 and 2008. It received the last jet in 2012.

It should be noted that only 10 Tiger Eye sensors were purchased and installed, and these are the only Tiger Eye sensors in existence, and South Korea has had trouble maintaining them. South Korea has instead equipped the rest of the F-15K fleet with the Sniper ATP pod.

Also noted is that Boeing is requesting an increase in support costs for the E-737 once the current support contract expires (up to $270 million USD), which is double what the government is expecting.
 
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RE: Both F-15SE And F-35 For South Korea?

Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:37 pm

Quoting ThePointblank (Reply 5):

This is a common problem with programs with long development or long life. Even the new P-8 is seeing life limitted hardware (circuit cards etc.). You start a program with tried and true technology. Then you hace to spend more money to incorporate new hardware when the suppliers no longer make or support the parts you need.

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RE: Both F-15SE And F-35 For South Korea?

Sun May 25, 2014 9:00 am

An ROKAF evaluation team is heading to Fort Worth, Texas on Monday to spent two weeks with the F-35 in the full motion simulator and in a chase plane:

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2014/05/116_157819.html

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An evaluation team from the Korean Air Force will test-fly Lockheed Martin's F-35 Lightning II before signing a deal to purchase 40 of the stealth aircraft for its "next-generation" fighter jet, the nation's procurement agency said Sunday.

"The 10-man team will visit the company's plant in Fort Worth, Texas Monday for a two-week test-flight," said an official of the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA).

"We will mainly check to see if anything has changed since the 2012 test-flight."

He added that there will be a performance test on the runway at the plant as well.

Korea decided to buy the "fifth-generation" low-observable aircraft in November to replace its aging F-4s and F-5s in its fighter requirement program, better known as the "F-X III competition."

However, like the 2012 test-flight, they will not be able to fly the stealth jet because they did not gain approval from the U.S. government and instead, the test will be carried out by a simulator and a chase plane.

"As the F-35 is a single-seat aircraft, a pilot needs to take a six-month course to fly it alone," the official said. "There is no country to test-fly the F-35 firsthand."

While the competition was underway, critics said that it was nonsense to decide on the expensive aircraft while only depending on a simulation test.

However, the Bethesda, Md. -based Lockheed Martin claims that the F-35 simulator enables pilots to practice all of the missions and all of the tasks.

"It is more realistic and is one of the only simulators where you can actually perform all of the missions of the airplane in the simulator," Art Tomassetti, program manager for the Marine Corps F-35 version, said in March.

Along with the Air Force contingent, negotiators from DAPA will also visit the United States during the same period and talk with U.S. government officials about the procurement price and offset program.
 
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RE: Both F-15SE And F-35 For South Korea?

Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:10 pm

Republic Of Korea Approves Procurement Of Lockheed Martin F-35A Lightning II

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Texas, Sept. 24, 2014 – The Republic of Korea finalized its formal selection of the Lockheed Martin [NYSE: LMT] F-35A Lightning II aircraft for its F-X fighter acquisition program, announcing its intent to sign the Letter of Offer and Acceptance (LOA) between the U.S. and Korean governments for 40 F-35A Conventional Take Off and Landing (CTOL) variant jets with initial deliveries beginning in 2018.


http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/new...924-aero-south-korea-f-35.html

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