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B52 Lake And Museum In Hanoi

Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:53 pm

In November 2015, I visited the “B52 lake”. Not far away there is the so called Museum of Victory over B-52.
So far I thought the part in the lake and the wreck in the museum belong to the same aircraft; aircraft number 56-0608 "Rose 01.
But in this article it says “View from the museum of Huu Tiep lake (Now B-52 Lake or May Bay Lake) where Rose 01 last came to land, note that all wreckage has been removed and placed on the museum grounds”: https://travelforaircraft.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/b-52-victory-museum-write/
But the picture shows another lake, not the one I visited this year. The one I visited is much smaller, very difficult to find and there is definitely a wreck of a B52, well just a small part of it, of course:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5782/23617283269_73f9a50883_b.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5804/23902582851_829b0588c5_b.jpg

Here the pictures from the museum
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5725/23358325383_f8430ef277_b.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5744/23902584021_c8d1dcba75_b.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1487/23356907374_d3c488fd0e_b.jpg

So can anybody confirm that these parts belong to the very same B52?

http://www.airspacemag.com/military-...-christmas-bombing-1813815/?no-ist

Last but not least, RIP to the two airmen who were killed when this B52 crashed – and the victims on the ground (the B52 had already dropped its bombs before being hit by the rocket). The rest of the crew had to live in the “Hanoi Hilton”, although not very long, just some 110 days.

Some background about the operation Linebacker II: http://www.airspacemag.com/military-...-christmas-bombing-1813815/?no-ist

[Edited 2015-12-26 09:06:44]
 
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RE: B52 Lake And Museum In Hanoi

Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:24 am

Wow, when I visited the park in 2012, all that was there was the tail fin of the plane. They've obviously down a lot of work in the last three and a half years.
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RE: B52 Lake And Museum In Hanoi

Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:44 pm

The wreckage looks more like an upside down B-52G. Unless the tail was cut down, that is a "G" tail, not one from a B-52D. Also, the B-52G did not start to be built until 1958, the B-52D/E/Fs were built in 1956 (the B-52F continued to be built into 1957). Additionally, there is no evidence of the external bomb racks on the wings. All the B-52Ds from Guam and Thailand carried external bombs in addition to internally. No, this cannot be the wreckage of Rose-01.
 
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RE: B52 Lake And Museum In Hanoi

Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:00 pm

Quoting kc135topboom (Reply 2):
The wreckage looks more like an upside down B-52G. Unless the tail was cut down, that is a "G" tail, not one from a B-52D. Also, the B-52G did not start to be built until 1958, the B-52D/E/Fs were built in 1956 (the B-52F continued to be built into 1957). Additionally, there is no evidence of the external bomb racks on the wings. All the B-52Ds from Guam and Thailand carried external bombs in addition to internally. No, this cannot be the wreckage of Rose-01.

Just to be sure - you say the wreckage in the museum cannot be the wreckage of Rose-01, correct? (the parts in the lake do belong to Rose-01, correct? ( http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=48405 )

Quoting scbriml (Reply 1):
Wow, when I visited the park in 2012, all that was there was the tail fin of the plane. They've obviously done a lot of work in the last three and a half years.

Well, this would support the theory that this wreckage is from another B52, since the B52-lake is so small, I really doubt there were more parts others than the two shown above come from this tiny lake.
 
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RE: B52 Lake And Museum In Hanoi

Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:43 am

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 3):
Just to be sure - you say the wreckage in the museum cannot be the wreckage of Rose-01, correct?

What I'm saying, is the displayed wreckage looks more like a B-52G than a B-52D. Rose-01, when she was shot down was a "D" model. The most likely explanation is these are parts from two or more B-52s. The engines look more like J-57-59Ws from the "G" model, and not like the J-57-1WB engines from the "D" model. But it is hard to say, I was looking for the location of the oil coolers, that would be a dead give away.
 
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Re: B52 Lake And Museum In Hanoi

Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:39 pm

I'm pretty sure at least a large portion of the one in the "B52 victory" museum is 58-0201, callsign Charcoal 1, a G model.

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